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    Titochuk's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Tito Chuk
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50

    Am I a bad Tank?

    I have been running the 45 dungeon since it was added and I love it. I have this strange addiction which can only be quenched by a dungeon run. I have run it many times and learned along the way what to do at certain part and what have you.

    What has been really killing me (quite literally) is the fact that I take so much damage. I ran it with a buddy of mine who seems to be lord of all tanks and he barely takes any damage. While I fight the Ogre and Batraal, I'm constantly spamming every def skill I have along with emnity skills. For those of you who haven't had the opportunity to tank these mobs I say go try it out cause man... there isn't a dull moment.

    So As I was saying my buddy is phenomenal. I set up all my stats like his, and I'm wearing the armor he is. The only difference is that he has MRD to 50 and I have a pathetic 20 MRD. If this is the reason why hes taking less damage, maybe through skills or what have you, it makes me sad that MRD is absolutely necessary to tank this mob.

    Now I have beaten Batraal but my mages need to be "johnny on the spot" with cures on me. I was wondering maybe someone had some ideas for me. Maybe you could shed some light on my situation. Or maybe like me you would just like to know that you're not alone.
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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Kickle Cubicle
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 90
    Do you and your MRD buddy have the same people healing you?

    Are you self-healing when you can?

    Do you ever lose hate?

    If the answers are No, Yes, and Yes respectively, the problem is your healers, not you.
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    Ooo Kelevra
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    What Gear are you using and what are ur stats ? (Maybe the thread will be move to the Glad section soon)
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    Player Eekiki's Avatar
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    Kickle Cubicle
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkscorpion View Post
    What Gear are you using and what are ur stats ? (Maybe the thread will be move to the Glad section soon)
    If it stays here much longer, you will definitely be told you are a bad tank. That's how things work 'round these parts.
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    Arcell's Avatar
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    Arc Jurado
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    There are only two things I can think of, HP and Parry.

    Marauders, if I'm not mistaken, get the most HP per Vitality. This means they can have obnoxious HP so it may seem like they're not taking as much damage comparatively.

    Parry can be partial or full, meaning you take no or only some damage. This is pretty awesome if you can get a high parry rate going. It's like Marauder's block, except potentially better. You also still have the option of evade with parry so that could be part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    There are only two things I can think of, HP and Parry.

    Marauders, if I'm not mistaken, get the most HP per Vitality. This means they can have obnoxious HP so it may seem like they're not taking as much damage comparatively.

    Parry can be partial or full, meaning you take no or only some damage. This is pretty awesome if you can get a high parry rate going. It's like Marauder's block, except potentially better. You also still have the option of evade with parry so that could be part of it.

    His reference is to the MRD 50 as in his friend has Defender II while the OP only has Defender I.
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    Arcell's Avatar
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    Arc Jurado
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    Mateus
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seikninkuru View Post
    His reference is to the MRD 50 as in his friend has Defender II while the OP only has Defender I.
    His friend is an R50 Marauder, he's an R50 Gladiator. I was stating why I thought he was taking more damage and whatnot. Defender II can't make THAT much of a difference. Unless I'm mistaken and his friend is also using Gladiator R50.
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    ShadowCadja's Avatar
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    Shadow Cadja
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    It's all about timing your skills correctly, isn't just go out there and do the skills whenever you can. ^^; Ask your friend for some tips on when to use certain skills, if he tells you, I'm sure you'll get the hang of it quite fast. =)
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    Wind Oni
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    The main reason I think is because your friend has defender II, and you don't. Thats the biggest factor in the amount of damage you two take. Its seriously insane how much it helps.

    Other things would be him popping certain skills at certain times, for example popping sentinel when hes about to WS. Sadly on this fight your shield is close to useless, that isn't to say it doesn't help some what but more or less its useless on this fight. Since as you know the ogre swings crazy slow and spams TP moves more.

    Which parry and the likes have nothing to do with either since you cant parry TP moves. Many people say MRD makes the fight easier since he has steadfast, higher HP pool, and defender II.

    So my guess is the dmg cut you're seeing from your friend has a lot to do with defender II.

    edit: people said defender II before i finished typing, you guys are fast
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    Last edited by wind; 08-09-2011 at 05:27 AM.

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    Chief Currahee
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    His friend is an R50 Marauder, he's an R50 Gladiator. I was stating why I thought he was taking more damage and whatnot. Defender II can't make THAT much of a difference. Unless I'm mistaken and his friend is also using Gladiator R50.
    I think the OP means, When they both tank on Gla, the OP has a more difficult time tanking than is buddy. The only difference between their two Gla builds is, his buddies Mur is R50. So what skills does a R50 Mur get to use that mitigates damage significantly if any.
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