[dev1022] Defining Auto-Attack and how it relates to MMORPG.

[Sorel]

I believe the best solution is a compromise that has been mentioned in several other threads on this subject.

Basically, make "auto-action" a setting that can be toggled on or off, and that can be configured to use any action that the character currently knows ... be it Light Slash, Levinbolt, Guard, or Cure. The cooldown for the abilities would determine the rate that they triggger, and naturally if you don't have enough Stamina, MP, HP, or TP to pay the cost the ability will not trigger.

Those who do not want to use it, do not have to use it. Those that do, can.

[Akumu]

I believe the best solution is a compromise that has been mentioned in several other threads on this subject.

Basically, make "auto-action" a setting that can be toggled on or off, and that can be configured to use any action that the character currently knows ... be it Light Slash, Levinbolt, Guard, or Cure. The cooldown for the abilities would determine the rate that they triggger, and naturally if you don't have enough Stamina, MP, HP, or TP to pay the cost the ability will not trigger.

Those who do not want to use it, do not have to use it. Those that do, can.

This is like the best possible solution and I will add if it can be mapped to buttons or macros it will make trying to chat in the middle of combat a lot easier. Instead of having to go into menu and config to toggle it off and on.

[kukurumei]

This is like the best possible solution and I will add if it can be mapped to buttons or macros it will make trying to chat in the middle of combat a lot easier. Instead of having to go into menu and config to toggle it off and on.

But it would make a mess of the battle system we have. Optional is never a good thing when it comes to battle dynamics.

I rather they turn auto attack as a "auto skill" with a skill set of its own.

Let's make light attack and light stab an "auto skill" for instance, or change it to heavy stab/slash, etc. which the latter will increase all skill stamina usage.

Then separate TP base WS, which I refer to "instant skills" that purely rely on TP and none on stamina.
and
regular skills which are purely stamina/mp. Thus making Stamina an ATB we're all so familar with.

This would allow make the ground work for a system kind of like FF11, but more modernized, where auto attack can be changed on the fly, but will always "proc" for the intense feeling.

While you have game changers like stamina skills that are strategic.

Finally the TP skills (WS) are what you would consider, limitbreaks theories.

So in summary,

Auto attack skills (Able to switch back and forth, but proc at a pre-set rate)
Stamina skills (On cool downs and stamina requirements, stamina regen might also need to slow down)
TP skills (Only based on TP, which TP will accumulate slower) aka limit breaks.

And you can bring back a SC system this way or a BR system that only rely on TP skills.

[Demacia]

But it would make a mess of the battle system we have. Optional is never a good thing when it comes to battle dynamics.

I rather they turn auto attack as a "auto skill" with a skill set of its own.

Let's make light attack and light stab an "auto skill" for instance, or change it to heavy stab/slash, etc. which the latter will increase all skill stamina usage.

Then separate TP base WS, which I refer to "instant skills" that purely rely on TP and none on stamina.
and
regular skills which are purely stamina/mp. Thus making Stamina an ATB we're all so familar with.

This would allow make the ground work for a system kind of like FF11, but more modernized, where auto attack can be changed on the fly, but will always "proc" for the intense feeling.

While you have game changers like stamina skills that are strategic.

Finally the TP skills (WS) are what you would consider, limitbreaks theories.

So in summary,

Auto attack skills (Able to switch back and forth, but proc at a pre-set rate)
Stamina skills (On cool downs and stamina requirements, stamina regen might also need to slow down)
TP skills (Only based on TP, which TP will accumulate slower) aka limit breaks.

And you can bring back a SC system this way or a BR system that only rely on TP skills.

This actually sounds very solid to me. It should be noted.

[origamikitsune]

But it would make a mess of the battle system we have. Optional is never a good thing when it comes to battle dynamics.

I rather they turn auto attack as a "auto skill" with a skill set of its own.

Let's make light attack and light stab an "auto skill" for instance, or change it to heavy stab/slash, etc. which the latter will increase all skill stamina usage.

Then separate TP base WS, which I refer to "instant skills" that purely rely on TP and none on stamina.
and
regular skills which are purely stamina/mp. Thus making Stamina an ATB we're all so familar with.

This would allow make the ground work for a system kind of like FF11, but more modernized, where auto attack can be changed on the fly, but will always "proc" for the intense feeling.

While you have game changers like stamina skills that are strategic.

Finally the TP skills (WS) are what you would consider, limitbreaks theories.

So in summary,

Auto attack skills (Able to switch back and forth, but proc at a pre-set rate)
Stamina skills (On cool downs and stamina requirements, stamina regen might also need to slow down)
TP skills (Only based on TP, which TP will accumulate slower) aka limit breaks.

And you can bring back a SC system this way or a BR system that only rely on TP skills.

^ One thumb up. Two if you keep the BR system and just tweak/edit it.