Lockout Timer for Withdrawals is soo stupid

[Giantbane]

So...SE is to blame for your poor time management skills in the first scenario, your poor attention span in the second, and your poor motor skills in the third?

SE is to blame for an overly harsh solution, yes.

It wasn't necessarily him, it was the people he partied with. Him getting penalized for their mistakes or carelessness is highly unnecessary. Groups don't have any motive to "fish" for anything. They can't join in progress.

[TheCurls]

No, but groups can still mess with people. Use the ready check feature or find something else to do for 30 minutes.

[Giantbane]

No, but groups can still mess with people. Use the ready check feature or find something else to do for 30 minutes.

They *COULD*, but I severely doubt very many actually did it, or would do it. They don't get to see those people who they're harassing, sounds like it would take a lot of *fun* out of the whole thing. Not to mention messing with people is harassment and if they can track trades for RMT sales, it should be painfully easy for SE to track groups "messing" with people, flag them for investigation have a GM take 5 seconds to look at their mass withdrawl behavior and put them in timeout. Would curb that sort of thing real fast.

Even if they couldn't be bothered to track the above and there really were legions of trolls who band together to grief people even though they have no idea who they're griefing, they could curb *that* sort of behavior by a much shorter timeout with a shorter 3 strikes reset.

This is a non issue.

I'm loving this feature. No more instant queues turning into a 20 min queue cause some asshat missed his queue.

one person missing their queue did not turn an instant queue into 20 minutes. It was more than likely repetitive withdrawls by those in a solo queue fishing for in progress runs.

[Tiggy]

People saying we should just ready check or be cautious are missing the point. This system should work better so that we don't get punished for silly reasons. Being careful is a band aid. Not a solution. The ability to troll is too strong in this system.

[Ultimatecalibur]

People saying we should just ready check or be cautious are missing the point. This system should work better so that we don't get punished for silly reasons. Being careful is a band aid. Not a solution. The ability to troll is too strong in this system.

"Being careful" should be the standard operating procedures not an unusual occurrence. In progress fishing and trolling may not have been prevalent as people think, but queuing failures really were a problem. So many of those "silly reasons" caused other people problems. I once had a queu pop 4 times and fail 3 times because a different role (i.e. 1 tank, 1 dps and 1 healer) either withdrew or failed to push the button in time.

[Ashkendor]

People saying we should just ready check or be cautious are missing the point. This system should work better so that we don't get punished for silly reasons. Being careful is a band aid. Not a solution. The ability to troll is too strong in this system.

Being considerate of others and how your actions may impact them isn't ever a band-aid.

[Fynlar]

What they ought to do:

1) Only people who hit withdraw / people who don't hit accept in the 45 seconds should get a strike, not their entire party
2) When you're unable to queue for the DF because someone in the party is ineligible, it should broadcast who that person is so that they can be rooted out

Adding strikes to the entire party because of one person being a derp is just unnecessary, and sometimes, even with ready checks people will not always be there because of how long wait times can be. That doesn't mean they shouldn't receive strikes, it just means the whole party shouldn't receive strikes based on their derps.

[Shadray]

While I agree adding the feature is good, I don't like that it applies to the full group.

Not rly sure why anyone thinks that's a progressive way to do things?

I mean now I don't bother with PF because someone may withdraw and use one of my strikes. This isn't rly a problem as I get in just as quick if I queue solo... Just stops me using PF.

[SummonerSenah]

I can see the argument if it was only one, but they are giving people THREE strikes. Is it really so hard to be more careful after you have two already?

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

If you need to go AFK for any reason and don't trust the party to do a ready check, switch to a DoH or DoL class, state what you need to do real quick, then go do it. Might not solve everything, but it will help protect innocents.