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    That's awesome that pc players get to learn how to play their class properly

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5lTcltM_Uo

    It's too bad ps4 players arent afforded the same raid tools

    Maybe that's something you should have put on the back of the box for ps4.

    *Does not include raid tools that will allow you to complete endgame to the best of your ability.

    Damage meters please. Every time i see one of these videos i get pissed. I want meters. I wanted meters in 2.3. I wanted meters in 2.1.

    Why am i putting all this effort into your game if you're not going to hook us up with some meters? ive yet to kick anyone out of my raids for their dps being lower than mine. i dont need a meter to look at their threat being lower than mine. i want meters please.

    I specifically want them to learn to play new classes and optimize the intricacies as well as to figure out ideal times to mix in consumables etc.
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    Last edited by ghostx1984; 11-01-2014 at 10:47 PM.

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    Player Skyl1n3's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostx1984 View Post
    Why am i putting all this effort into your game if you're not going to hook us up with some meters?
    Because SE do NOT condone using 3rd party software when playing FFXIV, having the PC version is just a technical advantage since you can run your own software and apps, but SE are never going to directly support it.
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    So you need tools that help you somewhat "cheat" (using term loosely) to be able to learn how to play your class? Hmm, not sure how I did it on the PS4, but didn't have any issues learning how to play my class.
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    It's not cheating, would you say that stopwatches are "cheats" in field tracking? Because, they're basically the same. Nowdays in a lot of MMOs this kind of things are supported even by developers. Square Enix doesn't allow this in their terms of service not the team, Yoshida himself said he doesn't mind players that use these tools (Such as Advanced Combat Tracking). It's something normal for someone to wants to check their perferomance with some real numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukotaku View Post
    It's not cheating, would you say that stopwatches are "cheats" in field tracking? Because, they're basically the same. Nowdays in a lot of MMOs this kind of things are supported even by developers. Square Enix doesn't allow this in their terms of service not the team, Yoshida himself said he doesn't mind players that use these tools (Such as Advanced Combat Tracking). It's something normal for someone to wants to check their perferomance with some real numbers.
    But everyone has access to stopwatches, but I said loosely, anything that gives an advantage over another player that can't use it, could be deemed "cheating".
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    To clarify, i am not pissed that they get to use them.

    I am pissed that I am being deprived of the same fun he is having here. Because what he is doing here is what I LOVE to do in an mmo. And PS4 users simply don't get this experience.

    What you seem to be telling me here is that I have to go pc to play this game. Because this dudes been putting it out for months. And that looks freakin fun. Never gonna get that on a PS4?

    Tell me theres a reason i spent all those seals on the target dummy sitting outside my mansion.


    I do see the benefit of not having them. Not having people nit pick each other every pull or in fights with rng where debuffs like chains or devours in t6 will lower a players dps if they are selected. At the same time, not being able to learn stuff like this is really annoying.


    The gear rewards in this game in relation to the free token gear are so minimal compared to having access to this software that it's not even funny. The real reward is having this knowledge that only comes from using this software. My reward for playing on a ps4 as an endgame raider is being ignored for i dont even know how many months now.

    You go to the reddit post and everyone has to ask this guy how to play your game? is that how you meant for people to learn to play the game? this is a joke.
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    Last edited by ghostx1984; 11-01-2014 at 11:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostx1984 View Post
    To clarify, i am not pissed that they get to use them.

    I am pissed that I am being deprived of the same fun he is having here. Because what he is doing here is what I LOVE to do in an mmo. And PS4 users simply don't get this experience.
    Only one way (two if you know how) to remedy this, buy a PC, or crack the PS4 for custom software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostx1984 View Post
    Tell me theres a reason i spent all those seals on the target dummy sitting outside my mansion.
    He has a HP percentage doesn't he? Training Dummys are for exactly that, to practice combos/techniques and basically kill it as quick as you can, you don't need a piece of software to tell you that your DPS is 10-20 less than another similar DPS, unless you're a really sad Hardcore player that absolutely insists on requiring strict DPS numbers to raid with then yea but apart from that it's purely informational.
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    私はダメージメーターを持ってくださいすることができます
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