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    I'm big on PvP(rank 40 with a war horse) but I haven't touched it since 2.4 hit. I'm focusing on burning through the PvE stuff first. Final coil and crafting is taking up most of my time. I suspect a lot of people are doing the same.

    If they had added a new frontline map for 2.4 it would have kept PvP alive during this time, sadly PvP seems to be at the very bottom of their content list.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Parodine View Post
    Adding new ranks to PVP was nice, but the new rewards are just bad reskins of the old ones. It's not very enticing when there's so much new content to do.
    This too. It feels like they put the least amount of effort they could into PvP. Just enough to say they did add something.
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    Last edited by Elim; 11-02-2014 at 06:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    This too. It feels like they put the least amount of effort they could into PvP. Just enough to say they did add something.
    To be fair, it's only really played by a minority of players in the first place. Doesn't seem very smart to devote a lot of development time to something only a few players will actually bother doing. Which also explains why the Zodiac upgrades clearly didn't have much development time...

    Given that Carteneau was dead only a month after being released with excessive wait times, it's fairly clear that there isn't much love for PvP right now. Wolves Den has been close to empty since it was first released, and has only gotten worse with Frontlines. I don't see them investing much in PvP as there just isn't enough interest to make it worthwhile.
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    True it probably doesn't have that much interest. Wolves Den pretty much killed PvP from the start.

    However, at least on my datacenter, wait times weren't that long before 2.4. I could get out of a match then have an insta pop. Part of the issue with wait times is they don't let groups Q for in progress, when there was often big gaps in teams due to withdraws at the last second. There's a few more things they could tweak to make pops faster, but I don't really want to get too much into that subject. Another issue is the GCD turns off a lot of PvPers. Then they keep nerfing where nerfing isn't needed. Maybe slight tweaking but NOT harsh nerfs. Like whm for example, when it was the underdog in PvP in the first place. I think they only look at healing numbers, and that is NOT completely representative of performance. It's easy to be a bad and pad numbers in FL.

    Anyway sorry about rambling... I just have a funny feeling that they don't have a dedicated PvP team. I think it's possible to get more people into PvP, they just need to put a little bit more effort into it. Which, like you said, they probably wont do since it doesn't have enough attention in the first place. A loop. lol
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    I played pvp everyday before the patch maybe 4-5 games a day. But since the patch it hasnt popped once. And pvp is basically the only thing I enjoy doing. Sure dungeons are fun but they dont give me any good loot so i dont see the point after ive done a certain dungeon 5-10 times.

    So im really sad that this patch added ninja cause now everyone is pnaying that class and all the other contents dead on my server
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    thats not right i think... you could play also with japanese people from japanese data centers as well directly on release.. (i think)

    maybe i am wrong but thats what i thought ^^
    If this was true pvp would pop faar more often. I only get players from Chaos cluster just like DF. Odin is in Chaos (i think) so he, like me is on a very unpopulated datacenter so thats why its never popping for us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    If this was true pvp would pop faar more often. I only get players from Chaos cluster just like DF. Odin is in Chaos (i think) so he, like me is on a very unpopulated datacenter so thats why its never popping for us
    with pvp it may be an other case. i think we arent connected to japanese data centres.

    and i think on every server you have long pvp queues.. its not just yours.


    carteneau popped for me in the evening about 5-10 times.. now it doesnt also.


    but i have to say that i am also concentrating on leveling ninja now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    with pvp it may be an other case. i think we arent connected to japanese data centres.

    and i think on every server you have long pvp queues.. its not just yours.


    carteneau popped for me in the evening about 5-10 times.. now it doesnt also.


    but i have to say that i am also concentrating on leveling ninja now.
    Ragnarok is like Odin in the Chaos group
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    PvP going strong on Primal Server. Instant to 40 min queues in the evenings.
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    Only did Pvp a few times. Never did frontlines tried queing a few times no luck.
    I never saw PvP as something most FFers wanted.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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    Wrong game for PVP OP. Try REAL PVP GAME
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