Topaz or Ifrit-Egi, which is useful in dungeon areas?

[-DMR-]

Don't know why, but I was told to get the Ifrit-egi out, and then about twice after, during Brayflox Longstop, as it kept being knocked out.
I thought the Topaz would still be ideal, given the amount of HP its got, in the dungeon stages throughout the game.

[Corfish]

Topaz/Titan-egi will have its use, but only if you absolutely need a second tank (which you shouldn't in 4 man dungeons), or while playing solo. Otherwise you should use Ifrit (higher DPS, which is the important thing for your class) until you hit level 40 when you will switch to Emerald/Garuda-egi. Use Sustain to keep Ifrit alive. It is extremely cost efficient, so pop one off if you notice him taking damage.

[Alberel]

Topaz carbuncle (later Titan-egi) is a tank... it builds extra enmity with its attacks which is sure to annoy the rest of your party because it makes the tank's job a hell of a lot harder when the summoner's pet keeps taking aggro.

Topaz carbuncle also does inferior damage to ifrit and garuda so by not using the dps pets you're not fulfilling your role to the best of your ability. If your pet keeps dying then you need to use sustain more or learn to position your pets manually.

[Lord_Zlatan]

As a summoner Ifrit adds significantly to your DPS in that stage of the game. Eventually you will switch to Garuda who adds even more to your party as a whole.

Overall, Garuda is the go to summon for group content. Situationally Ifrit and Titan are useful. At 50 I don't think u will ever use carbuncle again.

[Najara]

Topaz carbuncle (later Titan-egi) is a tank... it builds extra enmity with its attacks which is sure to annoy the rest of your party because it makes the tank's job a hell of a lot harder when the summoner's pet keeps taking aggro.

Topaz carbuncle also does inferior damage to ifrit and garuda so by not using the dps pets you're not fulfilling your role to the best of your ability. If your pet keeps dying then you need to use sustain more or learn to position your pets manually.

Can you explain why Topaz tanking would make the tanks job harder?

[Delily]

Can you explain why Topaz tanking would make the tanks job harder?

Gouge and Shining Topaz both generate enmity. Plus, ifrit-egi's attacks do more damage..

[Najara]

Gouge and Shining Topaz both generate enmity. Plus, ifrit-egi's attacks do more damage..

Yes, they generate enmity. But enmity is only stolen if there isn't sufficient aggro on the mob in the first place.

[-DMR-]

Ok, I might have another go at Brayflox Longstop or a later dungeon, when I get round to it.
Is there a sustain option for Ifrit? Can't remember, but I only have it for the Topaz.

[Ecks007]

Yes, they generate enmity. But enmity is only stolen if there isn't sufficient aggro on the mob in the first place.

It becomes a constant battle because, yes a tank can generate enmity enough to hold the monsters, but all of Titan-Egi's attacks generate emnity as if he was trying to tank. Tanks then have to put even more effort into making sure their enmity is the highest because they have a Summoner's pet constantly trying to battle it away from them as that is Titan-Egi/Topaz Carbuncle's job.

And as others have said already. It's quite easy to keep Ifrit-Egi alive. Use Sustain relatively frequently when you see it taking damage. Or do yourself a favor and level up Thaumaturge/Black Mage for Swift Cast so that if you aren't going to keep Ifrit alive with Sustain you can at least instantly re-summon him when he dies.

It makes no sense for a summoner to use their tanking pet unless it's some kind of already agreed upon strategy in party of abnormal make-up. (ie. no tank class/job)

Is there a sustain option for Ifrit? Can't remember, but I only have it for the Topaz.

Sustain is a lvl 18 Arcanist skill. It is used with all pets to give them a heal over time. When you get Rouse at lvl 42 it can be used before Sustain to boost Sustain's healing effectiveness (as well as Physick/Cure heals on your pet).

[Najara]

It becomes a constant battle because, yes a tank can generate enmity enough to hold the monsters, but all of Titan-Egi's attacks generate emnity as if he was trying to tank. Tanks then have to put even more effort into making sure their enmity is the highest because they have a Summoner's pet constantly trying to battle it away from them as that is Titan-Egi/Topaz Carbuncle's job.

And I say people who make this argument are blowing it out of proportion. As if having Titan take damage for them is such a dreadfully awful thing. There is no battle, just ego.