Mudra's seem sluggish?

[Clarkamite]

Hi guys!
Im a ''main'' ninja playing on PS3, and something bother me.
Can ninja be good on PS3 too? Or its harder or even impossible?
Some people told me that PS3 punish really hard ninja and his mudra... I don't know what to do, I have poetics but wonder if continue ninja ora change class for my console :\
Help! ;_;
PS: Sry if I failed thread xD

I don't play on PS3 but I can tell you that while it does gimp you in some ways anyone who tells you that playing on a PS3 won't allow you play a job well is full of it. Plenty of people can do well on PS3. If you like Ninja, stick with it.

[Nexxus]

And if you dont want to be engaged on the top End Game content (as for now, bahamuth T10-13) then you don't have to worry much, you can handle some lag and still have fun.

As i'm not in PS3, i can't tell how it's going in end game.

[Judge_Xero]

Another thing people should try is to bypass Nagle's Algorithm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle's_algorithm - Explanation of what it is and how it effects online gaming.

It does require editing the Registry so use at your own risk. (the steps for it are really easy to do)

Another option may be to enable User Datagram Protocol for FFXIV (I haven't even attempted this yet so not sure how it would works)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol

But if you have a low latency/low packet loss connection to any of your local servers I can see how that would be beneficial to waiting on packet verification.

[Ephier]

Another thing people should try is to bypass Nagle's Algorithm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle's_algorithm - Explanation of what it is and how it effects online gaming.

It does require editing the Registry so use at your own risk. (the steps for it are really easy to do)

Another option may be to enable User Datagram Protocol for FFXIV (I haven't even attempted this yet so not sure how it would works)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol

But if you have a low latency/low packet loss connection to any of your local servers I can see how that would be beneficial to waiting on packet verification.

That don't work and let me explain why. When you are disabling nagle's algorithm, you are allowing more smaller packets to go through instead of one big one, the way they have their servers set up, it can only accept so many packets so quickly. Real world example, only so many cars can fit in the tunnel before the tunnel is full. You may experience DECREASED performance with Nagle off, rather than on, I have tested this multiple times.

As for messing with UDP, I do not think that will have any effect on the game as it is a TCP based game, not UDP.

[Judge_Xero]

Wouldn't more smaller packets fill the same volume of the tunnel?
They just wouldn't have to wait for the bus to be full. They'd just take their Smart Car?

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I'll have to try it but there are these UDP Ports: 55296 - 55551 for FFXIV: ARR which might be worth prioritizing for QoS

I doubt the Mudra commands send enough packet data to be efficient through TCP which may be why they have both UDP and TCP available.

[MrYaah]

Wouldn't more smaller packets fill the same volume of the tunnel?
They just wouldn't have to wait for the bus to be full. They'd just take their Smart Car?

I think just based on the header they would take up more total space than a single packet including the data from all the sub packets. Also there's processing overhead for each packet so as you increase the ratio of packets to data the amount of time spent on processing overhead would go up.

[Duskmourne]

So does this have a big impact on NIN in end game? I'm really wanting to play one but if it's being held back with these issues...I would rather roll something else more useful.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

So does this have a big impact on NIN in end game? I'm really wanting to play one but if it's being held back with these issues...I would rather roll something else more useful.

I have mudra lag and can do decent enough dps. Sadly, you get used to it.

[Best-MNK-NA]

So does this have a big impact on NIN in end game? I'm really wanting to play one but if it's being held back with these issues...I would rather roll something else more useful.

I do about 620 dps on a dummy. In a dummy-like fight (ie T11) I drop down to around 590 due to FCoB lag. It's not enough to make or break the fight, but it is a noticeable drop. I imagine if I wasn't using a vpn I'd probably drop another 20-30 dps again.

[Velhart]

So does this have a big impact on NIN in end game? I'm really wanting to play one but if it's being held back with these issues...I would rather roll something else more useful.

If you were looking to get max efficiency out of your NIN, a VPN (depending on where you are) is a major requirement. It is miserable to deal with mudra in Coils if I do not have one. I payed 120 days worth, but if mudra is not fixed or reworked before my time expires on my VPN, I am going to switch to Machinist (assuming it does not use a mudra like system).