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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picoman View Post
    Adding options is always good.
    In most cases yes, but this would add unnecessary redundancy into the repair process and needlessly overburden item databases all over again.
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    You didnt but other DID have inventory problem.
    And you can prepare to cry for more because they will simplify recipes in 1.19
    And you might see some unreasonable mat to make stuff

    Get over it dude!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tachikoma View Post
    The old system was a disaster with WAY to many materials, if they introduce the old system back in I would be required by my ls to carry the cheap old mats since ppl will always want to pay less for repairs. No longer will I get 5k per repair i'll get the 1-2k of old, and i'll be expected to do the repairs for the price I can see it now
    This. Exactly this.

    How are people overlooking this? Adding the old system would actually ruin the new system because pricing would be so skewed. If the value of mats for the old system is much cheaper than the new system, you're essentially forced back into the old system for economic reasons.
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  4. #24
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    I think i am right in saying that these items have not been removed from the game so where is the harm.

    If you have an Oak Branch, use the branch.
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    That is something I haven't considered. Since the introduction of dark matter, I'm actually paying less for repairs, because I know exactly how much the materials cost.

    Before, I'd put my weapon up for 10k, because finding a high level goldsmith willing to sacrifice a jade to repair my knuckles was near impossible. Now I put it up for 6k, because I know grade 5 dark matter only costs 4800, and it gets repaired within minutes!

    With respect, I have unliked the OP. Apologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eekiki View Post
    Before, I'd put my weapon up for 10k, because finding a high level goldsmith willing to sacrifice a jade to repair my knuckles was near impossible. Now I put it up for 6k, because I know grade 5 dark matter only costs 4800, and it gets repaired within minutes!
    Agreed.

    Additionally, the current system pushes players to respect the time/gil required to achieve a high level craft. Before, an iron square was used to repair items ranging from r20 to r50. Because the material itself was low level and relatively cheap, the amount of gil players offered to crafters to repair their gear was quite small. Despite the fact that getting a crafter high enough to repair their iron cuirass (or whatever) was no trivial task - that time was not rewarded because the associated repair material was cheap.
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    with both systems you can perfectly pay the same 4,8K of Gil, so there is no problem with that
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    No both system is terrible. I heard Dark Matter can be mined correct? :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val_Rhys View Post
    Agreed.

    Additionally, the current system pushes players to respect the time/gil required to achieve a high level craft. Before, an iron square was used to repair items ranging from r20 to r50. Because the material itself was low level and relatively cheap, the amount of gil players offered to crafters to repair their gear was quite small. Despite the fact that getting a crafter high enough to repair their iron cuirass (or whatever) was no trivial task - that time was not rewarded because the associated repair material was cheap.
    and how's that any different than the same people running around right now offering 1,200 for a grade 5 matter repair?

    people are still expecting crafters to keep doing the repairs for those items for the same amount that they did before. there's been a few people that sat there for days in spots because people refuse to repair their gear due to they refuse to pay the material cost. this system may be ok for some items, but it's not for others and the overall cost has went up on all besides a select few items. i'm one that will walk by, look at the offer, and walk away. if it costs me almost 5k each i'm not doing it for less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miyochan View Post
    You didnt but other DID have inventory problem.
    And you can prepare to cry for more because they will simplify recipes in 1.19
    And you might see some unreasonable mat to make stuff

    Get over it dude!
    Here we go again!
    i don't have space problems, and I repeat, if both systems are implemented, you chose of use it both or not, if u dont have space, DON'T USE IT, but allow the people that have space use it
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