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    Normalizer's Avatar
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    Esmond Rainer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    When an FC rank promotion bug resulted in people stealing millions from FCs, they either ignored posts about it or blamed the victims. The bug still has not been fixed, and if you don't set up your FC ranks to account for it, people can still steal all the money/items in your company chest.
    Sorry for going off topic, but may you share more info on the bug? I want to know so I can at least prepare for that
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    Nyalia's Avatar
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    Neri Feralheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Normalizer View Post
    Sorry for going off topic, but may you share more info on the bug? I want to know so I can at least prepare for that
    If you have permission to promote in your FC, you can promote anyone to any rank except guildmaster regardless of your rank. Let's say your ranks were set up like this:
    • Rank 1: Guildmaster - all permissions
    • Rank 2: Officer - all permissions (including full Company Chest access)
    • Rank 3: Lieutenant - Chest Permissions: Gil: Deposit only, Tab3: Deposit only; Invite, promote
    • Rank 4: Recruiter - Chest Permissions: Deposit only; Invite
    • Rank 5: Member - Chest Permissions: Deposit only
    You're an Officer in the guild (Rank 2). Amy is in your guild. Amy is a Recruiter. Amy does a great job of recruiting, so you decide you want to give her some more responsibility. You promote Amy to Rank 3 (Lieutenant) so she can promote other members (Rank 5) to the Recruiter rank (Rank 4). Amy has a friend, Bob. Amy invites Bob to the guild, then promotes him. Because there's no limit on how far someone can be promoted (with the exception that there can only be one guildmaster), Amy promotes Bob to Officer (Rank 2). Bob then takes all of the cash out of company chest and all the rare items out of the deposit only tab. Amy and Bob then leave your guild and find a new one to steal from.

    This sort of thing has happened to so many guilds so many times. The real common time it happens is when two guilds merge, and officers from the merging guild are given promote permissions so they can rank up their members a bit, especially in guilds with tons of ranks. One of them decides they don't want to be part of the guild anymore post-merge, promotes a friend up to Rank 2, steals everything from the chest (which they weren't even given access to), and leaves.

    The only true protection is to limit chest access to guild leader only, but that can be a problem if your leader goes MIA. The other option is to limit promote and chest access to the second highest rank, and only have the most trusted people in the guild be that rank. Never promote anyone new to it, ever.


    More on topic - SE hates fixing obvious problems that invite people to be jerks to each other. They prefer victim blaming when these kinds of things happen. You made the mistake, so it's your fault, even if you didn't even know it was a mistake. It's less of a problem when you decide to stop caring about it :P
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    Zeo Valefor
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    That's not a bug that's just not paying attention to rank settings ><
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