Problem with DF

[Balipu]

And how much time do you suppose will pass before people start screaming murder if SE releases a buff for rogues that increases killing XP by 1000%? Five minutes? Or you mean for every class? In that case even less people would bother using the DF.

Don't get me wrong, I also struggle with my ninja. Level 31 now. But once all the level 50's killed Shiva they will go back to doing duty roulette.

[Anapingofness]

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Throwing more EXP at the issue won't fix things.
Look at the bs in CM and Prae that new players are still having to deal with.
SE threw more rewards to those dungeons and it didn't do anything to help them.

It's frustrating for you and others and I can sympathize but you also need to stop expecting SE to solve this issue.
You're on Balmung, one of the most populated and active servers in FFXIV.
You cannot tell me that there is *nobody* out there who is either in your shoes or is leveling a tank/healer, or has a tank/healer leveled that is willing to help.
If all else fails do throw up a group into PF or do some shouting. Don't expect others to invite you into already formed groups, try forming your own.

If your FC is snubbing you and other newbies then you guys should go find another FC that will not do that.

Also, I'm not sure why new players think that leveling via fates/dungeons/leves is the only way? That type of grind is the worst.
Make sure to exhaust your side quests too as well as the other exp options in the game... ~_~;;
But if you're hellbent on using Fates... well, by now the mob of rogues/ninjas will be moving in relative unison to the next area for "optimal" exp. Hang back in the areas they were before and do fates there. There will be less people there and you will still get good exp.

[BeePee]

You seem to have glossed over my comment from before. You should just find a new group who would be willing to play with you. Friends help each other out in my book.

[Spawns]

Story missions should have a Side Option to just Solo it if developers care about rewards remove from that option i rembemer sitting at one of the dungeon ones for 4 days.

[Adelard]

You know I find it hilarious that people who are like "Deal with it" Are almost always sporting tank gear and/or healer stuff. Yeah it's easy for you to say when you don't have to wait for queue times or have FC friends who can help you, ffs I can't even get mine to say "Can't busy" at this point, I just get ignored. We're going on 3 hours right now for today's DF queue, let's see if we can't beat last night's record.

Like I said, maybe you should find a more helpful company. if you are just getting ignored when asking for help, then it's never a good sign. You should find a company who are more willing to help new members.

[Ashkendor]

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Throwing more exp at the problem isn't a solution. The current glut of Rogues/Ninjas is a temporary situation and it'll eventually resolve itself. There's really not anything to be done aside from finding a way around it. Personally, I find it amusing that you think that someone that has a tank or healer as their main character is clueless as to the woes of a DPS. Many of us have leveled every role to 50 at least once and play those roles frequently.

As for the FC, you can hardly blame them for wanting to do the new content. If it's a huge issue where none of them will even respond to you, you may want to find a new FC that's a little more helpful toward new players.

[KIka93]

And how long do you think it'll last? Because if it's several weeks then I'm not even going to bother. I'm not going to play as a healer or a tank, I don't like playing as Paladin, it's the same thing: Shield lob, then flash if multiple mobs are present. then just spam Fast/Savage/Rage, Fight or Flight and Rampart are obvious. It's not that hard to do, oh and making sure you mark what critters you're about to engage. I wanna try out Thaumaturge because I like the stuff it gets and the fact it is just absolutely devastating in content. But I can't enjoy what I pay for, because of other people wanting to spam Ninja/Rogue like there's no tomorrow.

[KIka93]

And how much time do you suppose will pass before people start screaming murder if SE releases a buff for rogues that increases killing XP by 1000%? Five minutes? Or you mean for every class? In that case even less people would bother using the DF.

Don't get me wrong, I also struggle with my ninja. Level 31 now. But once all the level 50's killed Shiva they will go back to doing duty roulette.

I'm not even leveling rogue, and this buff isn't for Rogue or Ninja. It needs to universal or else there will be murder screaming. I don't know why you were putting words in my mouth, I said a buff, not a buff FOR ROGUE.

[Raist]

We're going on 3 hours right now for today's DF queue, let's see if we can't beat last night's record.

I hope people really aren't just sitting around waiting on DF, when they could be gaining levels instead. Esp. the person wanting to level THM/BLM up. You can make XP pretty quick on that job solo, more so with a choco assisting you if you've unlocked it. And you don't have to be pushing Chain5's either... just even Chain 3's can pull in steady xp with rested bonus and food up.

Just for the record, BLM and ACN were my first two to 50, and I did that almost entirely outside of dungeons. That's right... leves, fates, and just running around slaughtering crap the old fashion way... sometimes by myself, sometimes with a friend or two. The only dungeons I did while leveling my first 3 jobs were mission related or the odd guildhests to help a friend out. It really isn't that hard to do, and really doesn't take that long to do.

I was farting around again tonight on PLD tonight to finish bonding a pair of legs for conversion. With rested bonus and food, I was getting 118% bonus XP and pulling in upwards of 450xp/kill WITH my chocobo out (reduces your xp a bit and gives some to your choco). The targets were only up to +4 over my level occasionally, which in this game is still quite manageable regardless of job.

Gather a couple others and roam an area with a good selection/quantity of mobs and you can pull in some nice XP/hour numbers. Might even find you grab a level or two in the same amount of time you've spent waiting on DF queues.

Just saying... it isn't as bad as some of you are making it out to be. Just need to think outside the box a little. Or rather... to think more "old school".

[maxthunder1]

Do I really have to explain this one? Ok

1.) Increase overall EXP gain for a set duration (Until SE deems it ok to lift it when the craze is over)

2.) Increase EXP gain from Fates (Gil and seals is optional)

3.) Increase EXP gain from Leves (Battlecraft leves only, seals and gil is optional as well.)

4.) Increase EXP gain from Quests (Again this one is optional)

(This is probably my last post until the forum locks me out for a while, so I'll try to reply when I can.)

Just no, it is already to easy to level. SE cant do anything in regards to the ration of tank to healers to dps. The fact is if more players would play as a tank or healer we wouldnt have this issue. It is up to the players to fix this not SE.