Problem with DF

[Anapingofness]

And yet SE is not caring and is going to let this problem persist, therefore pissing a lot of people off on their first playthrough and losing quite a few long term customers. Splendid idea not to have more than just Dungeons as a reliable source of EXP, because I just asked and no one in my FC is wanting to help me.

What do you expect SE to do?
This is a player issue. More players want to play DDs then they do Tanks and Healers. With 2.4 out the older players are leveling Rogue/Ninja, doing the new MSQ and Hildibrand quests, some have chosen to tackle FCoB right from the start.


Fact of the matter is that Dungeons aren't the only source of reliable exp.

The best thing new players can do for themselves is do, in this order,
1.Main Scenario Quests
2.Side Quests**
3.Hunt Log*
4.Challenge Log*
5.Guildhests + Guildhest Roulette
6.Dungeons + Dungeon Roulette
7.Fates
8.Leves

*Numbers 3 and 4 are more or less interchangeable. Also the Challenge Log resets weekly and scales up with you as you level.
** At level 41 players can start doing the Beastmen Daily quests which are repeatable.

Without the armory bonus the amount of exp obtained from Fates and Leves is pretty abysmal. Once you get one class to lvl50 then you get a bonus based on the discrepancy of the levels between the two jobs.

Also new players should ask their FC (if they have one) to keep up Heat of Battle II buff, to eat food even if it is cheap merchant food, and when they do log that they log out in a City or a Camp so that they can build the rested exp bonus.
Lastly, when queuing for DF I strongly recommend that you queue during peak hours for your server, make sure that all language options are checked off and that you have selected 'join in progress'. It may help cut down the wait.

Don't get me wrong though, I can understand your frustration but Dungeons are not the only way to get exp.
If it is your first time going through the main scenario, you had best stick to the MSQ and SQ.
When I took Warrior to 50 at launch I exclusively did the MSQ and SQ for my lvls. There are more then enough quests to level one person from 1-50.
I did the dungeons to progress w/ the MSQ or for completions sake. I didn't farm them and I didn't farm Fates for exp. If I caught one otw to my next quest I did it.

[BeePee]

And yet SE is not caring and is going to let this problem persist, therefore pissing a lot of people off on their first playthrough and losing quite a few long term customers. Splendid idea not to have more than just Dungeons as a reliable source of EXP, because I just asked and no one in my FC is wanting to help me.

Sounds like you might need a different FC, lol. My friends and I all believe in story progression over other things, and we always drop what we're doing to help others.

[Ashkendor]

And yet SE is not caring and is going to let this problem persist, therefore pissing a lot of people off on their first playthrough and losing quite a few long term customers. Splendid idea not to have more than just Dungeons as a reliable source of EXP, because I just asked and no one in my FC is wanting to help me.

Dungeons aren't the only reliable source of exp. I've leveled all of my DPS classes from 1-50 with FATEs and levequests for the most part. The only time I've really done dungeons is when I'm leveling with friends that are leveling tank/healer. The queue was already bad before Rogue was introduced, and I didn't want to deal with it. This isn't something that SE can just wave a wand and magically fix. The fact is, way more people want to bring the pewpew with a DPS character than want to play support as a tank/healer, especially now with a new DPS class being released.

If you want to main DPS, you end up having to deal with sucky queues. You mayaswell get used to it now. :/

[Riviere]

What could SE possibly do about this?

[Zish]

What could SE possibly do about this?

Make low level dungeons require 3 dps instead of 2.

Not saying should, saying could.

[KIka93]

Make low level dungeons require 3 dps instead of 2.

Not saying should, saying could.

Could work as well, I actually think it might work but you never know.

[RyujinUzikin]

What could SE possibly do about this?

Give better rewards for dungeons. If everyone can get something good out of everything, then maybe people would do everything.

Cape Westwind for example is something I haven't seen touched since it came out, it's just there, picking up dust.

They can reward better, they just don't want to so that the grind lasts until the next patch.

[Riviere]

Give better rewards for dungeons. If everyone can get something good out of everything, then maybe people would do everything.

Cape Westwind for example is something I haven't seen touched since it came out, it's just there, picking up dust.

They can reward better, they just don't want to so that the grind lasts until the next patch.

This will not affect anything because it's not a problem with the game itself, it's because most people don't want the responsibility of tanking or healing. There are too many DPS and too few tanks and healers. If you have 2 tanks, 1 healer and 18 DPS in queue right now and decide to give them better rewards, you'll still have 2 tanks, 1 healer and 18 DPS.

Unless they decide to add magnificent exclusive rewards to tanks and healers (Not any of that Tank in need crap) or switch to 1 tank 1 healer 4 DPS per dungeon, expect the queues to remain as they are.

[Lexxuk]

What could SE possibly do about this?

Never, ever, ever...... release a DPS class on it's own, if they had released DPS+Tank+Healer then there would be no problems, next problem we'll have (If agent isn't a healer) is a lack of healers and 1,000,000 tanks with 2hr+ queues, if agent is a healer, tanks+healers begging DPS to queue up.

[Adelard]

Never, ever, ever...... release a DPS class on it's own, if they had released DPS+Tank+Healer then there would be no problems, next problem we'll have (If agent isn't a healer) is a lack of healers and 1,000,000 tanks with 2hr+ queues, if agent is a healer, tanks+healers begging DPS to queue up.

Yeah but tanks and healers are harder to balance. it is much easier to add a dps class than a tank/healer.