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  1. #131
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    thunderbreak's Avatar
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    Mini Boss
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    Ultros
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kassiekane View Post
    ...and this isn't. There's no reason to knock it away from tank if you're going to sleep it. The tank can use flash to build enmity on it so that it does not come after you when it wakes up, and the dps won't pull it when it they switch to it.
    Actually it is. There are 2 reasons, 1 is to avoid derps waking up adds with either tab target or aoe. 2, by the time sleep wears off add 1 and 2 should be dead, and it's their turn anyways and they'll automatically come back.
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  2. #132
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    KarstenS's Avatar
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    Lilli Karani
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    What if I told you a good healer can shave off a good 2-10 minutes* off these boring 4-man dungeon contents while keeping their healing game up?
    And with good DPSs it would go even faster. But thats not the case in casual content. For example in CT2 first trash the result in the standard dutyfinder group would look like this:

    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93008346/DPS_c.png

    On single target not so strong, but strong enough to deal more dmg than 2/3 of the DPS players.

    So in my eyes, its ok to chill out as a heal. The others do also way less they would be able to do.
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  3. #133
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    Cynfael's Avatar
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by KarstenS View Post
    So in my eyes, its ok to chill out as a heal. The others do also way less they would be able to do.
    This reasoning is fine...if you enjoy clearing duties at an unnecessarily slow pace.

    Using the laziest and least-skilled players as the bar for minimum acceptable performance isn't a great way to have fun or to get things done in a timely manner.
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  4. #134
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    Miyu20's Avatar
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    Akiko Viridian
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Please tell me that not keeping Medica II in effect during T5 is a lolwtfWHM. I think we found a new tier everyone >.>
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  5. #135
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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Phoenix
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    Marauder Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by Miyu20 View Post
    Please tell me that not keeping Medica II in effect during T5 is a lolwtfWHM. I think we found a new tier everyone >.>
    Wait, what? So you want to keep Medica II up at all times during T5? T5 has like nearly no group-wide damage, why would you want to keep Medica II up at all?
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  6. #136
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    Sumimi's Avatar
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    Sumimi Sumomo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Wait, what? So you want to keep Medica II up at all times during T5? T5 has like nearly no group-wide damage, why would you want to keep Medica II up at all?
    One of the most common "Dungeon" healer problems nowadays. I only know from word of mouth, since I queue as the healer when I run dungeons.

    Medica II before pull, Regen tank, /sit.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see this style of healing in T5.
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  7. #137
    Player Talia_Hailwind's Avatar
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    Talia Hailwind
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    If whms are bad for using medica 2, then tanks are just as bad for overpulling in speed running.
    Just play the game how you want to play, your here to have fun, not work.
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  8. #138
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    AlexionSkylark's Avatar
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    Alexion Skylark
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    I main as a WHM, and have a rack of 400+ commendations that tell me I'm at least a decent healer. I never played another class in dungeons until now, as I'm leveling a PLD to help my MNK girlfriend who I convinced to start playing. Now imagine my face as I start seeing those atrocities going on. It makes me want to punch the player behind that dreaded sorry excuse of a healer and say something along the lines of "GIMME THAT STAFF! YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF THAT! YOU ARE NOT WORTHY!

    Yesterday I lost my patience and said, after 5 wipes in Brayflox where the healer couldn't keep me alive for more than 30 seconds (if I used all my survival CDs), "OK, that's it, I'm queueing as heals". It was funny when my girlfriend came to me after the dungeon and said "OK, now I understand how bad that other WHM was".

    It's madness out there. Madness, I tell you.
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    Last edited by AlexionSkylark; 02-19-2015 at 03:54 AM.

  9. #139
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    Lyrica_Ashtine's Avatar
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    Sadako Yamamura
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sumimi View Post
    One of the most common "Dungeon" healer problems nowadays. I only know from word of mouth, since I queue as the healer when I run dungeons.

    Medica II before pull, Regen tank, /sit.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see this style of healing in T5.
    Well, that's the thing. Read the post I quoted:
    "Please tell me that not keeping medica II in effect during T5 is a lolwtfWHM"
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  10. #140
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    Sumimi Sumomo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyrica_Ashtine View Post
    Well, that's the thing. Read the post I quoted:
    "Please tell me that not keeping medica II in effect during T5 is a lolwtfWHM"
    Just commenting, I don't disagree.

    Everyone has a level of competency before it becomes lolwtfWHM. And thus, it's subjective before it crosses that line.

    For some, there is no bar. For others, the bar's really high.

    If you have an entirely new WHM, who's never seen the T5 fight and has never bothered to learn it. Would he not go back to his old healing styles and react to damage as it's dealt, while having medica II running (because that's his style?)

    We all agree that it's not MP efficient to be doing such a thing, because we understand the fight. However, in his eyes (and not being used to fights that last more than 5 minutes), he might have gotten into the habit of keeping a high HPS throughout the fight and medica II is the way to go.

    Let's extrapolate.

    How about keeping Medica II in effect throughout any fight? There's only one fight where that's viable, and that's KB in CT. Agree or Disagree?
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