The Abonimation Known as WTFWHM

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

I gear-check players when I see high HP loss. A player is a WTFWHM if they cast Medica II and then DPS for 30 seconds to the detriment of the party. The WTFWHM is someone who doesn't care about doing the Job, and is there just to farm something faster.

In that sense, you can WTF-anything

a WTFBLM keeps nuking even though tank's struggling, kiting, using virus for no reason
a WTFBRD for keeping ballad/paeon up for no reason. Doing terrible DPS and use "bards do lowest DPS" as a reason. Ninja pulling in any encounter by auto attacking. Kiting as result while still doing their damage. Not doing songs because it lowers their DPS (even Foe)
a WTF-anydpsclass for constantly dying
a WTFTANK you can find the list here: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2550391

Just because some players play a certain like a WTF-something doesn't warrant a topic specifically aimed for it. Scholars can be just as guilty for in the healer department, especially with auto-eos.

[Cynfael]

a WTFBLM... using virus for no reason

...auto-eos.

It burns me when BLMs and WHMs cast Virus for no damned reason and it renders a boss immune to (Super) Virus during a mechanic for which it would have been useful.

Auto-Eos SCHs need help. If they already know better and insist on using Sic, they are simply bad and lazy.

Dammit, I'm getting sucked into another WTF tangent! :P

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Well, I'm not saying that White Mages and Black Mages shouldn't be using Virus at all. But properly, if anything. Virusing adds for example is a big plus. Most adds in most encounters only deal physical damage. Or even some tank killing mechanics in case of whatever scenario that prevents the scholar from doing it (or simply keeps forgetting). But only limited to physical ones like Revelation in T12 - Yes, the big explosion from a Michael Bay movie is physical damage.

It's safe to assume the following rule of thumb:
Scholar is the only one virusing the boss
White Mage is the only one virusing adds
Whoever still has virus should adapt accordingly or discuss it with the healers

[Noxifer]

When I tank main Scenario and most high levels, I use sword oath +DPS accs for the bosses, back to tank accs and shield for large pulls. But im a t9 geared tank with full 110 DPS accs from my main MNK with still close to 7k HP with DPS accs. So I pushout a healthy 330-350 DPS on bosses which speeds it up quite a decent amount. For main scenario, I stay in sword oath 100%, and still maintain mob enmity.

If you overgear the content by a substantial amount, theres no reason not to switch to DPS accs and sword oath/drop defiance.

*cough* and if you overgear the damage dealers by a substantial amount. Trying to hold aggro against an equally or higher geared BLM who keeps getting crits or procs left and right, without Defiance/Shield Oath?

[RayneBoemir]

I hate Fluid Aura too. I think I hate it more on my Monk than on my tanks. Like seriously making me lose Greased Lightning I just want to stab them.

[VanilleFang]

I gear-check players when I see high HP loss. A player is a WTFWHM if they cast Medica II and then DPS for 30 seconds to the detriment of the party. The WTFWHM is someone who doesn't care about doing the Job, and is there just to farm something faster.

I'm sorry, but what? I don't quiet get what you are saying. If I cast Medica II and then DPS for 30 seconds and my team is still a live and healthy, what is the issue?

[Anna_Lannis]

The biggest problem with all of this argument is that people play to put up numbers: DPS put up red numbers, and healers put up green. But this simply isn't the case, and shouldn't be for any content not involving a raid boss (and sometimes not even then). First of all healers are *not* HPS bots... and anyone actually involved in playing a video game should be ... ya know, engaged. Just like it make sense to not stand in fire (because in other games fire usually kills you), a healer should do their best to be proactive... when I go into a dungeon I Holy each group of monsters at least 3 times, becasue I know how Stun and other debuff duration works. I'm in Cleric Stance while I use Holy because the monsters are stunned means the tank doesn't take damage. If I have to heal someone an I just turned Cleric Stance on and someone needs to be healed, I'll cast Stoneskin becasue I know that Stoneskin isn't affected by my stats. I know that if a tank doesn't have to move and fighting a boss that uses Disease, I can just Divine Seal + Regen and perhaps Medica2 up so I can save casting an Esuna. When I run a dungeon a second time I use forsight to know whats coming and how much mana I'll need. I also know that if the tank pulls the next group of mobs and I want to regain mana and doesn't need to be healed, I can just stand there and get "out of combat" regen. I make frequent use of HQ X-Ethers and HQ X-Mind pots, especally with Presence of Mind. I keep the tank targetted when I spam Holy so i can Benediction and keep spamming it, I keep bosses on Focus Target so i know when to Virus or Surecast a Medica. I use HQ 2 star food in dungeons and raids, sometimes better. I use Fluid Aura on a monster no one is attacking to save the tank 6 seconds of damage, or on mobs that don't get knockback, or to disrupt a nasty move or move a monster out of a buff zone. In low level dungeons I attack the mobs in the order the tank marks them. I know how my abilites work, what they're limitations are, and I practice things until I can get it right.

However, none of things are the mark of a good healer, they are the mark of a bad player. A WHM who DPS's like a bad DPS isn't and different than a BLM or NIN who DPS's bad.
A bad healer is also going to be a bad tank, or a bad DPS.

[Jim_Berry]

I like this topic.

As a WHM myself, I'm a WTFWHM to the dps, but not for any reasons listed above.

- In a dungeon, DPS pulls or auto-run into mobs.
- DPS begin to kite with range attacks, then eventually start running back towards the entrance.
- Tank grabs a few mobs.
- I stay with tank.
- The DPS that ran and died yells WTFWHM.

Personally, I don't chase a DPS to heal them. They should be mindful. I'll only chase the tank and other healer. I don't ignore my raise duty, though.

[revonine]

I like this topic.

As a WHM myself, I'm a WTFWHM to the dps, but not for any reasons listed above.

- In a dungeon, DPS pulls or auto-run into mobs.
- DPS begin to kite with range attacks, then eventually start running back towards the entrance.
- Tank grabs a few mobs.
- I stay with tank.
- The DPS that ran and died yells WTFWHM.

Personally, I don't chase a DPS to heal them. They should be mindful. I'll only chase the tank and other healer. I don't ignore my raise duty, though.

No-where is chasing down random DPS for heals more apparent than in the CT series of raids. That random guy that decides to go full Rambo. I'm not chasing you Rambo to the opposite side of the arena just to stop you from dying when my party members who had the sense to stick together demand my attention xD

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

However, none of things are the mark of a good healer, they are the mark of a bad player. A WHM who DPS's like a bad DPS isn't and different than a BLM or NIN who DPS's bad.
A bad healer is also going to be a bad tank, or a bad DPS.

What if I told you a good healer can shave off a good 2-10 minutes* off these boring 4-man dungeon contents while keeping their healing game up? A good scholar who maintains a good healing game while doing some DPS on the side can do up to 300 DPS**, possibly more too. That is equal, if not more, than the average DPS of equal gear you find through duty finder. Just because the tank is dipping to 1-3k for a bit doesn't mean the healer is bad. If the healer heals up the tank before any death scenario's (or any other player for that matter), it's called good sense of incoming damage and timing. Not "bad". And you can't compare a healer's dps with the dps of a class who specialises in it. It's like you're comparing a summoner's healing being bad healing like a scholar healing in cleric's stance.

On a side note: Disease reduces incoming healing. Why in the world wouldn't you esuna this in the first place? Not only does it reduce incoming healing, it also reduces movement speed.
And also: If you fluid aura away, even if it seems like no one is attacking it, the tank can't build enmity on it by flashing or using a weapon skill on it. You still generate enmity on it by just healing the tank. Yes, the tank could tomahawk/lob it. It would just make them consume an unnecessary large amount of TP just for that. Aside from tanks, there are DPS out there who DoT up additional mobs while focusing on another. Or even worse: You push it away while a summoner is about to bane it.

* Depends on the rest of the party
** White mages are a bit hard to gauge, so just putting Scholar down here for now