Positional Requirements for Melee DPS

[coolguy48457]

I have a beef with Square right now, because last time I checked no feedback ever submitted by any sort of sane player ever asked development to continue shoving positional requirements down our throats. I know I will never get an answer, but I have to ask, why is it that summoner, black mage, and bard get to lol faceroll the keyboard to obtain optimal dps from a SAFE range....while EVERY melee dps, (including Ninja) has to struggle with positioning along with over complicated rotations and being at risk of so much more hostile fire? This is making melee dps a joke, I enjoy things that take skill as much as anyone but when new content drops and its instantly lol go away melee nobody wants you.....I start to get annoyed, essentially we have 3 of the same exact crap melee classes...because using the same gimmick over and over is somehow creative and original? This needs to go and soon. We are only utilized for limit breaks

[ZzPixie]

wow are you seriously complaining about positional requirements?

[Duelle]

wow are you seriously complaining about positional requirements?

Well, there was a distinction in MMOs that classes with positional requirements required more skill to play. You'd have people that liked that sort of thing play those classes while people who didn't like positional requirements had the option to play melee DPS that didn't have positional requirements, offering a little bit more utility in exchange for not having that edge in DPS.

In FFXIV no such thing exists because all melee DPS classes have positional requirements. I'm not too keen on them half because none of the weapons insterest me (fists, spears and daggers don't do anything for me) and half because I know I would have trouble in serious content between keeping a rotation going AND watching out for stuff. I didn't realize how easy DPS can tunnel vision in this game to the point they miss mechanics until I leveled MNK and DRG to 50.

[Giantbane]

Well, there was a distinction in MMOs that classes with positional requirements required more skill to play. You'd have people that liked that sort of thing play those classes while people who didn't like positional requirements had the option to play melee DPS that didn't have positional requirements, offering a little bit more utility in exchange for not having that edge in DPS.

In FFXIV no such thing exists because all melee DPS classes have positional requirements. I'm not too keen on them half because none of the weapons insterest me (fists, spears and daggers don't do anything for me) and half because I know I would have trouble in serious content between keeping a rotation going AND watching out for stuff. I didn't realize how easy DPS can tunnel vision in this game to the point they miss mechanics until I leveled MNK and DRG to 50.

Ideally there would be a melee DPS without positional requirements that trades DPS for utility and ease of use like a melee version of the BRD.

*cough* RDM *cough*


On topic, I feel the positional requirements are a little too strict and wish the game gave you a little more leeway when determining a side/back hit, especially on targets in motion.

[Spartan117]

Ideally there would be a melee DPS without positional requirements that trades DPS for utility and ease of use like a melee version of the BRD.

*cough* RDM *cough*


On topic, I feel the positional requirements are a little too strict and wish the game gave you a little more leeway when determining a side/back hit, especially on targets in motion.

Part of a good tank is how to hold aggro without moving around too much or "flinching" aka moving left and right just for that additional (and illusional) 1 second more delay on boss autoattacks just for the ZOMG heals to come in.

Only exception is the spinning tank tactic in Hydra ages ago... God that's a nightmare for melee

[SolarMisae]

Only exception is the spinning tank tactic in Hydra ages ago... God that's a nightmare for melee

What...what was this "spinning tank" tactic in hydra? It sounds pretty funny lol.

[coolguy48457]

yes I am, especially when its creating an imbalance in skill required across melee dps as a whole. its a valid complaint and if you don't think so take your no feedback trolling somewhere else? When every melee dps option is CONSIDERABLY more difficult than the range counterparts you have an issue, especially when said issue causes half the server to think of melee dps players as a joke and not worthy of taking along for content outside of a necessary limit break

[coolguy48457]

ever heard of loldrg? yeah its because of the overwhelming opinion that its a useless class that is dead more times than not.

[coolguy48457]

monk is not the highest ST dps... please do some research....there are SELECT encounters where monk can outdps a blm but across the board no.....and generally yes you are only there because the fight benefits from having a melee limit break option....

[Atreides]

monk is not the highest ST dps... please do some research....there are SELECT encounters where monk can outdps a blm but across the board no.....and generally yes you are only there because the fight benefits from having a melee limit break option....

It's the other way around, there are very few encounters, where a BLM can outdps a monk, but those are ONLY the ones that involve several adds but we're talking strictly about Single Target DPS and that is where monks blow BLM out of the water even after the buffs. If he doesn't then he is just bad.
Even in fights like T9 the monk should at least be on par with the BLM if not higher and this is an annoying encounter for monks.
Also Ninja has less positional requirements than monk so I don't see the problem.