The cycle of disbanding that keep casuals from doing content

[Kallera]

I do think that there is a general lack of patience and comradery in the populace of the game in post 50 content.

A lot of people like to think that this isn't their problem, or that if only people in DC played perfectly, it wouldn't be a problem.

The humanity of players should not have to be a downside to playing the game. If you have to resort to being a callous dick to get that raid clear, or sacrificing your health/work to get those dailies, are you really enjoying yourself?

And if certain systems in the game promote divisiveness and a lack of community, shouldn't we try to change them? I don't see the way things are going with the df are ideal. And people will leave before long if they see ffxiv's endgame experience as dehumanizing.

[AlexionSkylark]

You guys just gave me an idea:

I'm gonna make a linkshell on Behemoth for people who look for learning parties to do content they can't because of jerks and rage-quitters. Let's see how this goes.

[NyarukoW]

...Experienced people only want a quick clear, and WILL rage quit after 1 or 2 wipes, thus disbanding the group. If that's what SE is looking for, they are shooting themselves in the foot.

That is probably true. And those kind players are probably happier buying and selling clears too.

Nonetheless, it takes a static, or at least mine until it broke apart, 3 nights with 2 hours each session to finally clear, for example, T7 for the first time. If it is to be doable on the DF within the DF's alotted time, assuming multiple attempts withe DF, they will probably have to tune the encounter so that some of those 1-hit insta kills or raid wipes are recoverable under some lucky RNG conditions. And as SE has stated already, they are monitoring the SCoB clear rates and will probably make adjustments depending on their schedule.

[Edli]

You guys just gave me an idea:

I'm gonna make a linkshell on Behemoth for people who look for learning parties to do content they can't because of jerks and rage-quitters. Let's see how this goes.

It took 17 pages for you to realize that you actually have to do something instead of just complaining and blaming others.

Tackling hard content is not impossible for anyone. You just have to care about it and actually try. That there are rude people, clear sellers doesn't matter. The server is big and there are a crapton of other players like you who are stuck and want to find a good group to play with.

[Ellatrix]

A lot of that could be settled with being able to solo que Scob, that is on SE not the players

It will be added to the DF soon along with the first iteration of Echo. It is following the same pattern as the 2.2 patch.

[NyarukoW]

It took 17 pages for you to realize that you actually have to do something instead of just complaining and blaming others. ..

The OP is not blaming anyone. The clear sellers coming here and dissing people is clearly not helping. I am not behemoth so I can't help there, but how come no one offered him a LS to join after 17 pages?

But certainly see clear a seller taunting the OP with an offer for a sale. See:

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But hey u can always hmu for a sale if u really wanna clear that bad lol

Forget ethics, forget real help. Anything for that gil right?

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Darn out of posts:

"People not interesting in relearning fights"

We got that already. We know you don't. You don't know about other players, and you don't speak for the "people".

But why are you so happy to make the OP feel bad?

[Exstal]

but how come no one offered him a LS to join after 17 pages?
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"People not interesting in relearning fights"

We got that already. We know you don't. You don't know about other players, and you don't speak for the "people".

But why are you so happy to make the OP feel bad?

You asked, I answered. I speak for people who have no interest in relearning fights. Which, apparently, seems to be everyone who is from Behemoth on this forum.

[LegendWait]

Of course, our valiant white Knight, upkeeper of gaming moral, paragon of virtual virtue and guardian of the casuals, NyarukoW, is here giving ethics critics to everyone

[Edli]

The OP is not blaming anyone. The clear sellers coming here and dissing people is clearly not helping.

I was sorta talking about you though. Clear sellers here, clear sellers there. Such an easy scapegoat isn't it? I've never over the whole year came across them, contacted them or knew any of them personally. I never cared about this organization of elite devils that control everyone's life. I see them sometimes on pf but it has the same effect as those sex rp parties you occasionally see. That they exist on the server matters little to me.

[AlexionSkylark]

It took 17 pages for you to realize that you actually have to do something instead of just complaining and blaming others.

Actually, it took me 17 pages to come up with an idea that, albeit I came here to the forums asking for help and ideas, nobody gave me. Instead, like you, they thought it was cooler to deslegitimize the problem.