The cycle of disbanding that keep casuals from doing content

[Exstal]

Yeah, tell me how we're suppose to believe that with your post history ?

She doesn't believe in anything anything she posted in the past. Her opinion has since changed.

[NyarukoW]

She doesn't believe in anything anything she posted in the past. Her opinion has since changed.

Go look at the post history. What part of opinion has changed? I am still asking that people should take the attitude of being more inclusive and not spew hatred towards newer players and do not treat them with contempt like the way clear sellers do. This hasn't changed.

And it all starts with people being rude and mean to new/newer players, starting with forcing people to skip cut scenes. And I've always said the speed run is neutral, but the speed runner is the problem, running roughshod over newer players. And as they progress to raid content etc., it is about being more inclusive of the newer players. If possible make the effort and time to help them along. Because this is an MMO, things work better when people play together.

Simple version:
Speed run is fine, speed runners are NOT.
Elite players are fine, elitists are NOT.
Raiders are fine, clear sellers are NOT.

Somehow people have a hard time separating out the two. I do NOT know why that is.

Too much time and effort is spent on hating newbie/newer player that does no good for anyone. The hyperbole is constant misrepresentation of the newer players, non-raiders, etc. calling them all lazy, lack initiative, want to be spoonfed, etc. etc. etc., which is all blatantly false. Be more inclusive of them, it is simple enlightened self interest.

[BobtheBlackMage]

Simple version:
Speed run is fine, speed runners are NOT.
Elite players are fine, elitists are NOT.
Raiders are fine, clear sellers are NOT.

At one year in, speed running is the standard, all players are speedrunners.
I can exclude or not run with whoever the hell I want, for any reason.
If someone is willing to pay as an incentive to take them through content, I'm willing to make the exchange. I don't do crafting, I barely do gathering, and my raiding skill is how I make gil.

Too much time and effort is spent on hating newbie/newer player that does no good for anyone. The hyperbole is constant misrepresentation of the newer players, non-raiders, etc. calling them all lazy, lack initiative, want to be spoonfed, etc. etc. etc., which is all blatantly false. Be more inclusive of them, it is simple enlightened self interest.

Inclusive? I run FC members through content all the time, I constantly ask people in my FC what their current content gate is, and how I can help. I have two characters I do this on, one for tanking/physical DPS, and one for healing/spell DPS.

I have limited time to play, limited time to teach new players, and my own goals. I can't spend my entire day spoon-feeding idiots too dense to see or hear the dive-bomb marker. Again, I can and will exclude or drop anyone for any reason, because I am no person's personal tutor, and I have no responsibility to help random people for no reason. And if I feel that I'm good enough to rent my services, I'll do so.

[Exstal]

Simple version:
Speed run is fine, speed runners are NOT.
Elite players are fine, elitists are NOT.
Raiders are fine, clear sellers are NOT.

Somehow people have a hard time separating out the two. I do NOT know why that is.
.

The reasoning is because it's not a fully formed set of statements.

All speed runners like to speed run, not all speed runs are done by speed runners.
All elitist players are elite (or supposed to be), not all elite players are elitist.
-this is the important one-
All clear sellers are raiders, not all raiders are clear sellers.

This is the fundamental misunderstanding you're omitting. There's also the, "not all clear sellers are heartless fiends who don't help other players randomly", which you have never once assumed existed. Don't paint the picture black and white when there are unused colours on the palette.

[Gardes]

Simple version:
Speed run is fine, speed runners are NOT.
Elite players are fine, elitists are NOT.
Raiders are fine, clear sellers are NOT.

Wait, so, if I equate all 6 into something bad..

The act of stealing is fine, thieves are not.
Assassins are fine, serial killers are not.
People who hunt endangered animals for kicks are fine, people who hunt endangered animals to sell their parts are not.

:^)