The cycle of disbanding that keep casuals from doing content

[NyarukoW]

No the problem is that crowd just wants a win and if they can't get it in 2 attempts they come here to the forums to say the content is too hard.
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Who is making unwarranted generalizations? 2 attempts? Seriously!? some made up strawman here! Try weeks after week hours after hours of endless waiting. Put stuff up on the PF and you get less bites that a hook without bait.

but you will notice now (not sure if you have tried) that since there is no lockout on coil people WILL help you learn it because they have unlimited access to gear now.

Not really, when 95% of the those PFs are multiple clears only, farm T6 , farm T7, etc. I have not even seen people PF T9 farm party yet. Obviously they don't want the "noobs". And when they are done farming, they are not going to bother either. And then you have the 1 T6 learning party that doesn't get filled for 3 hours in a row.

[Kyri]

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Not really, when 95% of the those PFs are multiple clears only, farm T6 , farm T7, etc. I have not even seen people PF T9 farm party yet. Obviously they don't want the "noobs". And when they are done farming, they are not going to bother either. And then you have the 1 T6 learning party that doesn't get filled for 3 hours in a row.

This is what makes me sad too.. I have been waiting for a while to help people outside my static and these partys are never filling up. Even looking at the Party finder Im already seeing:
t10 pt know to 40% or don't join us
Shiva EX: Farm only
Shiva EX: know to last phase or don't waste our time.
Shiva EX: Selling, pst.

Though as someone who bashed my head against t5 for a good few months myself back in the day and yes though I like to help some fights do make me cringe going back into them, I still help or gather a group who I know can clear to help someone who can clear but can never get a pt who can do so to get the win. One person who was stuck inT5 and asked me almost to a annoying degree to help them past t5 is trying to sell the win for outrageous prices to other people. This does make me sad to a extent. Im not saying everyone and their dog should be able to beat all the content out there right now, just that there needs to be more of a incentive to help these people who do try and try and -could- beat these things and if that's not possible a repercussion to those who only sell help. Being top dog isn't a bad thing, working hard to beat content isn't a bad thing but obviously there is a flaw in the system that needs a solution. Bannable offense might not be the answer it's just the only answer -I- personally see. If someone has a better idea of a system that could work that would be great advice to this forum, rather then: "We deserve it and you don't so stop whining about it"

[Lord_Zlatan]

Who is making unwarranted generalizations? 2 attempts? Seriously!? some made up strawman here! Try weeks after week hours after hours of endless waiting. Put stuff up on the PF and you get less bites that a hook without bait.



Not really, when 95% of the those PFs are multiple clears only, farm T6 , farm T7, etc. I have not even seen people PF T9 farm party yet. Obviously they don't want the "noobs". And when they are done farming, they are not going to bother either. And then you have the 1 T6 learning party that doesn't get filled for 3 hours in a row.

Your missing th point... it's supposed to take time... if u don't have a static you either don't do it or fake the time to get it done... that's really all there is to it