The cycle of disbanding that keep casuals from doing content

[craig_meredith2003]

This is relevant, by the way;

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ality_is_very/

Good read had valid points.

[Ghishlain]

This is relevant, by the way;

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...ality_is_very/

Taking this one step further, I found this comment to be very apt, considering I've had the very same stress organizing my own static. It's difficult, but you feel quite rewarded once you're hitting those milestones you and your group have set out to hit. Perseverance is key, as well as the ability to find like minded individuals. There will be a lot of pruning involved, but it's worth it.

[DisFlavored]

I've seen that a lot of people have suggested getting a band of fellow travelers with similar schedules. From what I've seen, that is not a completely easy task. But if you have one or two people you can depend on to meet you for a run or two, latch on to em. And don't be afraid of the PF.
From my experience, it's better to start your own party recruitment if nothing current meets your criteria. But don't just put the trial info and hit recruit. Be specific about what you want. Is this a learning party? Is it a clear party? Has everyone completed it and your just killing for an FC mate?
If you're going for a clear, make sure it's evident that it is NOT a farm party and jerks aren't permitted/will be kicked. I've explicitly said in PF that I won't tolerate whining because of a wipe. There are more people out there than you think that are casuals and want to clear content without being criticized for their lack of experience.

[alimdia]

Actually, it took me 17 pages to come up with an idea that, albeit I came here to the forums asking for help and ideas, nobody gave me. Instead, like you, they thought it was cooler to deslegitimize the problem.

I dont see what you were looking for. Not sure how big your server is but the only other option is to switch servers if there are not enough people in your current server to do content.
Otherwise.. everyone started in the PF

[PuttyKat]

My thoughts on this have always been the weekly lock out is an issue to casual players. Most players who know learn the content and have it on farm, will beat it in the first couple days even if its out of static. Leaving learning players struggling with others players who continue to bash their heads against the content never being able to get any help from friends who know the content.

I know the devs have talked about unlocking the new raids, so that players can help their friends progress at the cost of not being able to receive a reward for the duty. What I"m thinking is take this a step further. Make New Coil like raids content run like the 24man raid contents. Allow us to spam duty finder even from the day 1 to get our selves comfortable with the duty. Allow us to enter as many times as we want the week and only allow one item per weak to be obtained.

[Souyo]

I still haven't beaten Garuda EX and that's just because I got crappy pugs and people wanting me to pay them rather than join my PF.

Fact is, people suck, dude.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

I still don't understand what's so hard about finding a FC / static. Being "casual" does not mean you can't find or create a static made for casual players.

"Casual" does not necessarily mean "bad".

[Krr]

Regardless of the OP having a solution or not (I call attempting to form an LS an attempt at a solution more than anything - ) it goes to show that regardless, our community has serious problems when it comes to reaching out to newcomers or anyone who is 'behind the curve' of progression-based raiding.

Party finder culture is abominable on many servers where pub raiding is active - outright lying and listing a clear group as "no 100 myth", confusingly, gets you more players and thus more attempts than stating that you're going for a clear. Not a learning party - a clear party that doesn't have "farm" or "no 100 myth" in the name. On other servers, it's dead. In either case - get a static or go home.

Contrary to popular belief, finding or running "your own" static is not as easy as casting a spell on /r/recruitment or your server's forum that summons 7 other players that mesh with your group's needs and playstyle. You will spend hours in empty party finders trying to find people at 'your level', because people above 'your level' have no incentive - and in most cases negative incentive - to ever want to be around you. It's social classes in a video game where achievements and loot are class identifiers.

Are there ways around it? Absolutely, and the recent patch launch is frankly a great time to go about recruiting or looking for an FC that does raid-level content. But a 19-page thread of other players telling a newbie to bootstrap through content they cleared when it was hot, popular, and easy to find players for without a clue of the reality it entails nowadays is funny, sad, and a damn good indicator of the systemic problems in the game and the community it fosters alike.

This needs to change. And if you just read 'change' and thought 'nerfs to existing boss fights' in any way, you're part of the issue.

[Remilia_Nightfall]

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There is no need to "reach out" to anyone.

There is still a huge amount of players who has yet to clear T5. There is only one relevant factor that stops them from forming up dedicated FCs and statics: the will to lead and organize things. The will to actually WORK towards something.

Instead of wasting time whining, people could do just like everyone else who is now raiding endgame content did: try to SOLVE the issues instead of waiting for others to do that.

Sure, organizing and leading statics and FCs is hard and troublesome and time consuming - yet SOMEONE has to do it, or no one will accomplish anything. Most of the people raiding endgame content started like that - creating statics and FCs for T1-T5.

Do it. Plenty of people to recruit out there.

This is the only "change" needed. Player initiative. Everything else is just noise.

[Tiggy]

This is the only "change" needed. Player initiative. Everything else is just noise.

Exactly. MMO's are what you make of them. If you sit around waiting for things to happen then you're going to do a lot of sitting around. Proactive players get the most done and make the most progress.