Warrior with Ninja- Slashing Debuff

[TemariVtwo]

I, for one, was very happy to hear that a dps class was getting a slashing damage debuff. Removing a combo from the rotation and keeping a higher up-time on Storm's Path sounds like a good deal to me.

Reading through the dps forums makes me think they intend to make us their buff-bitch, though...


While I do like to do more damage, IMO, it's more beneficial to the group to have War debuff damage and Nin debuff slash resist.

Thoughts?

[Asierid]

I, for one, was very happy to hear that a dps class was getting a slashing damage debuff. Removing a combo from the rotation and keeping a higher up-time on Storm's Path sounds like a good deal to me.

Reading through the dps forums makes me think they intend to make us their buff-bitch, though...


While I do like to do more damage, IMO, it's more beneficial to the group to have War debuff damage and Nin debuff slash resist.

Thoughts?

It's more beneficial to the group to end the fight as quickly as possible. Can't take damage if it's dead. Us using the slashing buff basically shoots their DPS through the roof.

Storm's eye all the way. I'll really only use Path if the entire raid is going down hill due to struggling heals. (Even then, that's mostly the raids fault if you're geared. >_>)

[Steady]

I, for one, was very happy to hear that a dps class was getting a slashing damage debuff. Removing a combo from the rotation and keeping a higher up-time on Storm's Path sounds like a good deal to me.

Reading through the dps forums makes me think they intend to make us their buff-bitch, though...


While I do like to do more damage, IMO, it's more beneficial to the group to have War debuff damage and Nin debuff slash resist.

Thoughts?

Nah. War should do it. War should always be doing it. Ninja loses significant damage to do it. Though I wish they had made it 30 seconds. Upgrading to 20 doesn't really do that much for us.

I don't see it as making us a "buff-bitch". I see it as warrior getting some love. Ever run with a Bard and think to yourself.... man.. I wish I had a dragoon in the party for Disembowel? That's just one more reason to have a war.

[Fue]

Nah. War should do it. War should always be doing it. Ninja loses significant damage to do it. Though I wish they had made it 30 seconds. Upgrading to 20 doesn't really do that much for us.

I don't see it as making us a "buff-bitch". I see it as warrior getting some love. Ever run with a Bard and think to yourself.... man.. I wish I had a dragoon in the party for Disembowel? That's just one more reason to have a war.

Actually upgrading it to 20s allows you to rotate all three combos without dropping any debuffs with some skillspeed

[TemariVtwo]

Actually upgrading it to 20s allows you to rotate all three combos without dropping any debuffs with some skillspeed

Yeah... It's pretty nice.

[Belandrus]

What is the required skill speed for this?

[MythToken]

It does allow a Warrior MT to completely skip using SE, and get more BB's in while keeping up SP. Which is more damage overall and both debuffs.

[Lutray]

As an OT, rotating SE/SP/BB, without either debuff falling off, would require a little over 461(2.38 sec gcd) skill speed. Rotating all three as MT would require more than that accounting for IB. This is from a few minutes on a training dummy.

Overall, IMO, it's not worth it to even try and itemize skill speed, you lose too many other valuable stats. Without any skill speed, as OT your debuffs would be down for about 1 gcd.

I don't think it's even probable to weave all three combos in as MT, considering the loss of threat from fewer BB combos.

[stoxastic]

If you use all 3 combos, you'll lose uptime on the buffs for 1 GCD. Not a huge deal IMO, the SE buff duration to 20s is very welcome. War OT should probably use all 3 combos.

MT might need to prioritize BB a bit more in the beginning but once you get a big enough hate lead you should be able to use all 3 combos again as well.

[Ojikuh]

The general thing is, there's 1 warrior tank rotation and there's 1 dps rotation...