Again, Relic Nexus will have barely no use...

[silentwindfr]

And I'd disagree that coil is pretty damn important to the story line, especially since it ties up the bridge between 1.0 and 2.0.
And I've never heard of people feeding truffles to pigs, only using them to sniff out and dig more. Blah... they're too expensive over here.

you miss my point, what i'm saying it's not everything must be tie to coil! not everything must be resumed by coil! actually the main flaws of FF14 it's the way the end game is create. we do have only one end game content...Raid. mmorpg are not a Massively Multiplayer Online Raiding Playing Game. it's more than this, you must get content outside raid that are difficult and that will satisfy different type of player looking for hard content. (not this trouble is born with WoW model)

don't forget that some people simply don't like raid (especially because FF14 raiding is not real raiding but more rope jumping and the community make it hard for new player to simply join the veteran, but that another debat), and still play this game, do that means they don't deserve a reward for them dedication to complete the relic upgrade? do that means only your play style is the one everybody must follow? no, not everything must be tie to raiding when it come to end game.

you like raiding, is your right, but i feel it's insulting, and i don't think it was your goal, to say only raid is hard content and only this must be rewarding.

Again, people fail to realize THAT THE RELIC WILL STILL BE UPGRADABLE PAST NEXUS!!!

Gawd, the whining, seriously, stop it. Welcome to MMORPGs, where nothing you want to happen will happen and there will always be something better than what you have to work toward in a new patch/expansion/etc. Get over yourself and get on with it.

exept that never any upgrade will be the best and often we will get an upgrade that get at the same level than raiding... 1 month before they add a new tier that make this relic be less good. because weapon from the last Turn is i135 when relic is i115. indeed not everybody will get a i135 weapon in the new 3 month, but it's yoshida himself that did say that relic will never pass the raid ilevel... when it did become clearly more tedious than any other content for get the last step, with more step coming it will become extremely hard to see new player really invest time, energy and gils into this.

i'm scared to imagine when we will be able to make an i135 relic weapon, when we will look at the whole process i'm sure it will be insanely big...