Again, Relic Nexus will have barely no use...

[Kallera]

Most likely by the time 3.0 comes out Relics will be i135 and BiS again, we just have to wait for the quests to drop. Hell, if the "Ultimate weapon" comment of Yoshi-P's is taken as a lot do the Relic could be i140.

As others have said though, Nexus will be BiS for the vast majority of the game's population for a while given Final Coil's difficulty.

What isn't mentioned is whag is different from said ultimate weapon that we are not seeing in these stages. Will it too, only be useful for a few months before it gets tossed away for good with some flavor of the week token weapon surpassing it? Is such an end goal worthy of the time investment put into it?

[Prototype909]

What isn't mentioned is whag is different from said ultimate weapon that we are not seeing in these stages. Will it too, only be useful for a few months before it gets tossed away for good?

Welcome to vertical progression, nothing stays best forever, especially when it doesn't even involve doing anything difficult aside from logging on everyday.

[Numenor1379]

I personally think the Relic weapons will be at least equal to the Dreadwyrm stuff by the time 3.0 drops, if not slightly better depending on itemization (like Nexus was over HA). That being said, I also expect the Relic weapon questline to end upon 3.0 being released and a new weapon quest being started there that will be better yet.

Nothing stays BiS forever, but the Relic line does remain as an excellent filler/perhaps at the time BiS weapon for everyone. I don't really think you can compare the Relic line to the Raid drops given the differences in obtaining them and their place in everyone's gearing. Evolving weapons are fundamentally different than static Raid drops.

[Pr0c3ss0r]

Idk, all this is weird, now Hunt Rank A give 20 soldery instead of 80 myth, so 1/4 of the reward, They reduced the book 1/3 price and alex 1/2 price, i just don't get it.

2.4 Made nexus even harder to obtain.

[Sapphic]

I personally think the Relic weapons will be at least equal to the Dreadwyrm stuff by the time 3.0 drops, if not slightly better depending on itemization (like Nexus was over HA). That being said, I also expect the Relic weapon questline to end upon 3.0 being released and a new weapon quest being started there that will be better yet.

I just hope that when 3.0 drops and if they start a new Relic weapon that our old ones will be mountable in the housing as trophies

[Felis]

Idk, all this is weird, now Hunt Rank A give 20 soldery instead of 80 myth, so 1/4 of the reward, They reduced the book 1/3 price and alex 1/2 price, i just don't get it.

2.4 Made nexus even harder to obtain.

They want Allied Seals to be the main reward in Hunt and tomes only a bonus.
Allied Seals = Hunt
Tomes = dungeons and raids

The tomes reward in hunt 2.3 was unbalanced. Majority did hunt instead of dungeons to get tomes, longer queue for players who wanted to do dungeons. And don't forget the people who left a dungeon party in the middle of a dungeon for a S rank.

Greetings, everyone.

We received a comment from the development team that I’d like to share in regards to the amount of Allagan tomestones that can be earned from content in Patch 2.4.

The amount of tomestones is not only connected with content difficulty and rarity, but they’ve also been adjusted based on the calculations of the total amount yielded from all of the new content released in patch 2.4.

With the addition of the new Allagan tomestones of poetics in Patch 2.4, we’ve made overall balance adjustments to the amounts of tomestones earned, and the following was envisioned for the beginning of Patch 2.4.

• The Hunt would be content where players collect allied notes and enhance their equipment.
• Allagan tomestones of poetics and soldiery would mainly be collected via instanced dungeons and Crystal Tower.

Due to this, in order to fit the content difficulty in Patch 2.4, The Hunt only yields a very small amount of poetics from only S rank marks while soldiery has been set as a bonus, and the main currency to collect for this content is allied notes.

When it comes to the balancing of content rewards, however, after a patch has been released we are continuously checking data for how much each type of content is being played and how many rewards are being earned. Based off of this data we will continue to make adjustments as we move forward.

The current values are not a permanent thing, and we will also continue to make adjustments based off of everyone’s feedback.

[Pr0c3ss0r]

They want Allied Seals to be the main reward in Hunt and tomes only a bonus.
Allied Seals = Hunt
Tomes = dungeons and raids

The tomes reward in hunt 2.3 was unbalanced. Majority did hunt instead of dungeons to get tomes, longer queue for players who wanted to do dungeons.

well, they could have reduced the cost of Alex by 1/4 as they did with hunt, even the dungeons reward are not great as they take twice the time. (twice the time for half the myth it use to be, again that a 1/4 ratio) and they had no good reason to nerf light from t6-9.

And don't forget the people who left a dungeon party in the middle of a dungeon for a S rank.

To get the title maybe and they still going to do it, for the myth/soldery/seal reward, i doubt, plus they are only 72h repop.

Idk, i see more imbalance then balance in all this, they make Nexus harder to get + bring a better weapon that cost you less time to obtain.

Relic was motivating player to do DF, but at this point, why even bother with all this.

My FC never been that dead, 32/38 player did not came back in 2.4, i see more shout of "selling this and that", PF are packed of "no learner, no derp, 1 strike out", DF are still wiping at T5, but i guess the game never been that successful.

[silentwindfr]

You can't even get the weapon unless you beat t10. And even then you have a 1/8 chance of getting it if everyone wants it.

Coil gear will always have the lead with the relic line. This is to be expected.

no i'm sorry that mustn't be expected, the time you need to spend for upgrade a relic is far more important than any time spend in dungeon or raid... the raider simply can't accept that them precious raid don't drop the best gears around! i'm sorry but the relic must be the best weapon of the game, since it ask soo much time at the release of ARR yes it was short to do the relic, now it's painfull, nothing explain why it wasn't eased more than this or at least make it the best weapon of the game !

right now for get a weapon i110 you only need 1300 soldiery (50 per dungeon expert) 26 dungeon in total (without count the roulette bonus you can get there and there.) 1 sand and one unidentified allagan tomestone that can be easily farmed in ST (while getting soldiery).... look at what you must do for get the relic i110....

i will say it one more time: the Relic must be the best weapon around!

[MasamuneBranford]

Idk, all this is weird, now Hunt Rank A give 20 soldery instead of 80 myth, so 1/4 of the reward, They reduced the book 1/3 price and alex 1/2 price, i just don't get it.

2.4 Made nexus even harder to obtain.

If you do a trial roulette you're going to get 40 soldiery, plus what you normally would get, plus any newbie rewards. You'll average 55 soldiery or so. If you do a hard roulette, you'll get 50 soldiery, plus what you'd normally get, plus any newbie rewards. You'll average 85.

Simply doing these two roulettes once a day will get you a book in four days. While hunts were taken down 75% - roulette bonuses and dungeons were mainly only decreased by 50% or so. Because 500 is 33.33% of 1,500 - it's now a lot faster to earn books via dungeon runs.

[MasamuneBranford]

i will say it one more time: the Relic must be the best weapon around!

In all fairness - relic caps at 115 now with nexus and is better than your typical item level 115 (similar to novus being better than the soldiery 110 weapon). In 2.4, the only way you're going to get a weapon that is better than 110 over the next three months is by being able to clear T10 (correct me if I'm wrong). So people with nexus are going to have a better weapon than anyone who can't beat T10 (which will likely be 90-95% of the player population).