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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Shit people say about relics

    (During Novus)
    WHAT? Casual scrubs who doesn't do coil can get IL110 weapon, the same IL as the unweathered UAT weapon from coil? What is this, SE?

    (During Nexus)
    WTF SE? Casual scrubs who doesn't raid can get the best weapon in the game? We raiders banged our heads in coil for weeks and trying to farm it for weeks to see our weapon drop, and some still doesn't seen it dropped yet, and scrubs get best weapon in game? NO! I don't care if it is only 4 weeks, just no! Best weapon in game are for raiders!

    (During 1st week of Patch 2.4)
    Nexus is shit. Look at all these new shiny coil weapons. Nevermind the fact that I don't even have 1,300 ToP yet lest probably 10 groups or less have cleared Turn 11 (which drops the Encrypted Tomestone) and only Collision have cleared Turn 12. People in Collision must be stupid suckers (quote, 5%) who fell for it and wasted their time and even more stupid to continue using it to clear FCoB and even wanting to look at the piece of junk.
    This is so wrong, after i had my T9 weapon and shield, SE introduced Nexus, and this is not even a month ago. How that even helped me for anything? Plus, you seem to dodge the fact that Coil and Nexus was the same dmg, or block, it was just possible to custom them, also the T9 weapon still have a better delay.

    Also, all this analogy is plain wrong, if the *SCRUB* as (you or them) state are unable to beat T9, how that is suppose to be a bad idea to give them an EXTRA boost to help them? From my understanding they should suffer to no end, by that same logic they should remove echo buff huh.

    So why i get penalize on my right to custom my nexus till 2.45? Where is the quest to upgrade my nexus to have equivalent of those picture i posted?

    See, Xatsh was 100% right there:

    Relics, the worlds most expensive piece of Glamor gear.
    Let resume all this, who would do a nexus atm to beat the new coil? (who would be that stupid to even think about toss 10m + like 150+ hours into it) It be quicker to just get the new weapon, no matter how you look at it, so in the end, is just a piece of glamor, a pure waste of time.
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  2. #22
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    Are you saying your t9 sword is better than your nexus? Because it shouldn't be. Which means it's your BiS till you get your poetics. And if your static gives you the tombstone to get the poetics weapon before any of the DPS in your static, then I don't even.

    This means, assuming you are clearing T11 before reset this week, that you will go at least 4 weeks before you get your poetics, so nexus will be roughly BiS for approx 2 months.

    How is that not helping you?
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    This is so wrong, after i had my T9 weapon and shield, SE introduced Nexus, and this is not even a month ago. How that even helped me for anything? Plus, you seem to dodge the fact that Coil and Nexus was the same dmg, or block, it was just possible to custom them, also the T9 weapon still have a better delay.
    Do you read? Did I say shit you say about relics? I said that in general. You may be the lucky ones who got your HA stuff before Nexus was introduced but nope, there are people out there who don't. And we have players who are in server 1st/2nd teams who took like 20+ T9 kills before they get their HA weapon which by then, people already got their Nexus.

    You talk about weapon delays. Go figure the relationship between auto attack damage and weapon delay on different weapons of the same IL. And you grossly underestimated the effect of +31DET if your HA weapon doesn't have it and you decided to meld it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    So why i get penalize on my right to custom my nexus till 2.45? Where is the quest to upgrade my nexus to have equivalent of those picture i posted?
    What, Nexus just released one month ago and you expect another upgrade this soon?


    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    Also, all this analogy is plain wrong, if the *SCRUB* as (you or them) state are unable to beat T9, how that is suppose to be a bad idea to give them an EXTRA boost to help them? From my understanding they should suffer to no end, by that same logic they should remove echo buff huh.
    "Shit people say about XXX" is meant to be a joke, a parody, or satire. Not sure if you got it lightheartedly.
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  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    What, Nexus just released one month ago and you expect another upgrade this soon?
    Wait is that a real question? Let me answer it the wrong way, hmm, no, i want SE to make the upgrade when i will have no use for it. I want them to make sure it stay useless for Coil progression. That make sense right?


    9 book:
    -27 dungon at 30 min each = 13.5 hours. *in best world of insta Q, GL with that*
    -90 monster kill
    -27 Leve quest
    -27 painful Fate you need wait for hours and hours to spawn.
    12 atma at 4h each drop = 48 hours
    farming Myth 9x 1500 = Tons of time
    75 Alex at 800 Myth each (60,000 MYTH!)
    2000 light at 1 per minute = 33 hours minimum.

    But ya, Ty Yoshi for your glowing glamor.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    Wait is that a real question? Let me answer it the wrong way, hmm, no, i want SE to make the upgrade when i will have no use for it. I want them to make sure it stay useless for Coil progression. That make sense right?
    Yes, your HA weapon is good for progression and your Nexus is crap for progression. I wonder how people even managed to clear T10-T12 right now using Nexus, bro.

    Okay now being serious, it is not about you, you and you. Yoshida previously delayed the release of Novus questline because there are still plenty of people stuck at Atma and doesn't have an Animus weapon yet.

    Meaning, there is always a time gap between each upgrades to ensure that people could catch up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    Wait is that a real question? Let me answer it the wrong way, hmm, no, i want SE to make the upgrade when i will have no use for it. I want them to make sure it stay useless for Coil progression. That make sense right?


    9 book:
    -27 dungon at 30 min each = 13.5 hours.
    -90 monster kill
    -27 Leve quest
    -27 painful Fate you need wait for hours and hours to spawn.
    12 atma at the mercy of RNG for each drop = 2 hours - Forever
    farming Soldiery 9x 750 = Meh
    75 Alex at 400 Soldiery each (30,000 SLD!)
    2000 light at 1 per minute = 33 hours minimum.

    But ya, Ty Yoshi for your glowing glamor.
    Fixed it for 2.4, and I'm pretty sure there's gonna be another upgrade in 2.5
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Yes, your HA weapon is good for progression and your Nexus is crap for progression. I wonder how people even managed to clear T10-T12 right now using Nexus, bro.
    You saw the picture, i think we are not talking about the same thing right here. I did not post HA weapon and shield =/

    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    Yoshida previously delayed the release of Novus questline because there are still plenty of people stuck at Atma and doesn't have an Animus weapon yet.

    Meaning, there is always a time gap between each upgrades to ensure that people could catch up.
    Lol, sorry =/ but ya, good luck with that one, i did 2 nexus, and was working on 3rd one, let me tell you, i will NEVER finish it, god thanks i can sell back all the 14 DET at 700k each and Crit at 600k each, so ya... wont happen my friend, unless they really dedicated for the glowing.

    Fixed it for 2.4, and I'm pretty sure there's gonna be another upgrade in 2.5
    Ah ty, but that fix is not fixing the real time i did spend on both nexus, but ya ty for the fix for who ever want to get one in 2.4 Also GL doing Dungon that is now ITEM cap i70, at least i was doing it with i110 =/

    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    "Shit people say about XXX" is meant to be a joke, a parody, or satire. Not sure if you got it lightheartedly.
    I know exactly what it was, and i was answering too it, that why i said "(you or them)" as i can't tell the source of that "parody/joke".
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    Relic is always behind during times when it matters. They should have made the next line to Nexus making the weapon at least i120 for 2.4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephyranthes View Post
    Relic is always behind during times when it matters. They should have made the next line to Nexus making the weapon at least i120 for 2.4.
    This, I agree. But unfortunately when Yoship pushed the Novus from 2.35 to 2.38, everything gets pushed back and no longer in sync. It was planned to be every .05 in patch numbers. Hopefully 2.45 will bring in the update, then those tanks and healers who are on low priority for the Encrypted Tomestone can have an upgrade too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0c3ss0r View Post
    Ah ty, but that fix is not fixing the real time i did spend on both nexus, but ya ty for the fix for who ever want to get one in 2.4 Also GL doing Dungon that is now ITEM cap i70, at least i was doing it with i110 =/
    Is that no different to how anything you get from Coil now will become completely obsolete with the new content in 2.5 and the expansion? Sure, you spent the time when it was harder, but you were able to obtain it during a period of time where it was the strongest weapon at your disposal. The level syncs of course was SE's response to people complaining about the i60 & 70 duties being too easy pre-2.4, and for some it's a welcome change.
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