Again, Relic Nexus will have barely no use...

[Pr0c3ss0r]

They want Allied Seals to be the main reward in Hunt and tomes only a bonus.
Allied Seals = Hunt
Tomes = dungeons and raids

The tomes reward in hunt 2.3 was unbalanced. Majority did hunt instead of dungeons to get tomes, longer queue for players who wanted to do dungeons.

well, they could have reduced the cost of Alex by 1/4 as they did with hunt, even the dungeons reward are not great as they take twice the time. (twice the time for half the myth it use to be, again that a 1/4 ratio) and they had no good reason to nerf light from t6-9.

And don't forget the people who left a dungeon party in the middle of a dungeon for a S rank.

To get the title maybe and they still going to do it, for the myth/soldery/seal reward, i doubt, plus they are only 72h repop.

Idk, i see more imbalance then balance in all this, they make Nexus harder to get + bring a better weapon that cost you less time to obtain.

Relic was motivating player to do DF, but at this point, why even bother with all this.

My FC never been that dead, 32/38 player did not came back in 2.4, i see more shout of "selling this and that", PF are packed of "no learner, no derp, 1 strike out", DF are still wiping at T5, but i guess the game never been that successful.

[MasamuneBranford]

Idk, all this is weird, now Hunt Rank A give 20 soldery instead of 80 myth, so 1/4 of the reward, They reduced the book 1/3 price and alex 1/2 price, i just don't get it.

2.4 Made nexus even harder to obtain.

If you do a trial roulette you're going to get 40 soldiery, plus what you normally would get, plus any newbie rewards. You'll average 55 soldiery or so. If you do a hard roulette, you'll get 50 soldiery, plus what you'd normally get, plus any newbie rewards. You'll average 85.

Simply doing these two roulettes once a day will get you a book in four days. While hunts were taken down 75% - roulette bonuses and dungeons were mainly only decreased by 50% or so. Because 500 is 33.33% of 1,500 - it's now a lot faster to earn books via dungeon runs.

[RyujinUzikin]

You should have better stats on what you work the hardest to get.

Its up to you to determine which one is more time consuming.

[ApolloGenX]

Everything in the game is throwaway. You know this... so before putting effort into anything, decide if it is worth it, knowing it will be throwaway.

The design is extreme vertical progression and mudflation, so anything you get will be obsolete in the next patch or very soon. That's the way an extremely one dimensional design works.

[Ecks007]

I think everything with 2.4 was awesome, except that they didn't add another relic upgrade or two.

They should have added the step to reach at least an ilvl of 120/125. That way Final Coil weapons would still be slightly better for a while, and yet relics would be the same or better ilvl than weapons that can be purchased from the vendor in Rev. Toll.

This is the only thing that disappointed me with 2.4. I put all that work into get my Nexus and now there are better weapons you can just buy from a vendor. Gee thanks guys.

[Morningstar1337]

This is the only thing that disappointed me with 2.4. I put all that work into get my Nexus and now there are better weapons you can just buy from a vendor. Gee thanks guys.

I think it's worth pointing out that you would need an item you can only get from Final Coil to get the Poe weapons ATM. so you can;t "just buy" them from a vendor

[Edli]

They should have added the step to reach at least an ilvl of 120/125. That way Final Coil weapons would still be slightly better for a while

Final coil was just released. Next endgame dungeon will theoretically be released after 6 months. If Relic were to go 125 from the first day wth is SE going to do with it for the next 6 months? Nothing?

Relic will get several steps during these months. 120,125,130. It is going to be exactly how it was before yet people still act surprised for some reason.

[Ecks007]

Final coil was just released. Next endgame dungeon will theoretically be released after 6 months. If Relic were to go 125 from the first day wth is SE going to do with it for the next 6 months? Nothing?

Relic will get several steps during these months. 120,125,130. It is going to be exactly how it was before yet people still act surprised for some reason.

Uh, okay. When the game launched we had i90 relics available to obtain, 1st Coil was there as well with i95 weapons (or where they i90 at first? I can't remember).

I know it will get further steps to raise it's ilevel, but they should have added a step up from 115 with 2.4 is all I'm saying. I hope the next step comes sooner than 6 months from now, considering that is roughly when we are looking at 3.0.

[Edli]

Uh, okay. When the game launched we had i90 relics available to obtain

Yeah that changed with second coil. It was pretty obvious what Relic was going to be since several months ago. Acting surprised now fools no one. In case is still not obvious to you after all the atma, books, alexandrites, is the catch up weapon, the slow and time consuming one.

Relic upgrade steps will try to match the rate of playerbase progression on tome and allagan weapons. Getting a poetic weapon, the "just go to the vendor" weapon you have to clear t11 and get lucky on roll, that's no small feat.

[saber_alter]

percentage of the player base that can reach turn 11: very small.

nexus has a great use. rather, said top percentage of the playerbase are clearing turns 10-13 with only nexus and high allagan weapons.

they have a use. and they will in the future as well.