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    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    I could speculate of what it was exactly the 'shameful' truth that members of the Path of the Twelve inadvertently uncovered, but as I'm usually wrong when it comes to speculating on how the storyline turns out I'm going to keep silent for now.
    Well, whatever Iceheart discovered through the Echo was evidently shameful enough for her to believe in the need to become a primal to save Eorzea. And, more importantly, she believed that this is what Hydaelyn herself wants.

    How Iceheart came to have the Echo is anybody's guess. The Ascians are involved, but I don't think it was them who gave her the power, but rather that they knew she had the gift and somehow manipulated her to where she is today.

    Which leads me to wonder: What of the missing Pathwalkers, those who never returned from their journeys? Some of them are probably dead, but what of those who remain alive? Where are they now, and do they still have the Echo?

    Iceheart is probably not one of the lost Pathwalkers, as Minfilia would probably remember her otherwise.

    It also brings up another question: Has it ever been confirmed that the Scions also comprise members who possess the Echo, besides Minfilia and you, the main character? It seems to me that there are no longer any other known Echo-users, other than these "two" people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    It also brings up another question: Has it ever been confirmed that the Scions also comprise members who possess the Echo, besides Minfilia and you, the main character? It seems to me that there are no longer any other known Echo-users, other than these "two" people.
    It hasn't been confirmed that any members of the Scions have the Echo, but it's very likely. The Echo isn't as rare an ability as ARR implies. The Path of the Twelve was formed because there were suddenly so many people coming into the power in the years leading up to the Calamity. Iceheart is likely just one of those people who saw a meteor shower one day and started having Echo visions like so many others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    Iceheart is likely just one of those people who saw a meteor shower one day and started having Echo visions like so many others.
    Exactly. It has been heavily implied that Hydaelyn is "dead". Or, at the very least, she has gone silent and no longer speaks to her "children". The meteor shower may have been a "birth" event of sorts, with Hydaelyn seeding the land with as many possible Echo-users as possible.

    Over time, some have gone astray. Others have died. And today, only two are officially known to remain.

    Three, if we count Iceheart as well.


    P/S: For some reason, I'm suddenly reminded of salmon. The fries that became the users of the Echo fought the circumstances of their time, seeking eventually to return "home". And now, only the two strongest remain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TinyRedLeaf View Post
    Exactly. It has been heavily implied that Hydaelyn is "dead". Or, at the very least, she has gone silent and no longer speaks to her "children". The meteor shower may have been a "birth" event of sorts, with Hydaelyn seeding the land with as many possible Echo-users as possible.

    Over time, some have gone astray. Others have died. And today, only two are officially known to remain.

    Three, if we count Iceheart as well.


    P/S: For some reason, I'm suddenly reminded of salmon. The fries that became the users of the Echo fought the circumstances of their time, seeking eventually to return "home". And now, only the two strongest remain.
    True, but Hydaelyn has only gone silent very recently. Iceheart most likely had the Echo long before the battle with Ultima. There are also officially at least a few more Echo users. Early on when we have the vision of the mothercrystal, there are other adventurers there too.

    Also, I just remembered. Louisoix saved a lot of people that were at Carteneau. We know at least one Echo-user (Derplander) was saved, so it's possible many others were too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sholah View Post
    It hasn't been confirmed that any members of the Scions have the Echo, but it's very likely. The Echo isn't as rare an ability as ARR implies. The Path of the Twelve was formed because there were suddenly so many people coming into the power in the years leading up to the Calamity. Iceheart is likely just one of those people who saw a meteor shower one day and started having Echo visions like so many others.
    Actually, it's the opposite, at fan fest Ferne confirmmed that the other scions do not have the echo, they have other useful skills. I can't recall if it was the stream only lore chat or the lore cast from gamer escape.
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    I thought that everyone in the Scions that wasn't a Circle of Knowing member had the Echo (other than tataru). This is what distinguishes them from the Crystal Braves, because the crystal braves are neither.
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