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  1. #181
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    Skadi Felis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violyre View Post
    Wasn't there like one class in very early FFXIV that was solely for supporting shields that eventually got rolled into GLD because it was redundant? I think that's how any support would happen I think.
    Sentinel was not a real class. It was more like a invisible subclass bounded to shield you leveled up the moment you fight with a shield.
    Access to the Sentinel and his shield skills had Gladiator, Conjurer and Thaumaturge.
    You could level up Sentinel to 50 with Thaumaturge and then have all Sentinel skills ready for lv1 Gladiator.

    The Sentinel skills were Guard (1), Aegis Boon (10), Shield Bash (14), Outmaneuver (20), War Drum (30), Aegis Boon II (40), Shield Bash II (44) and Deflection (50)

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/S...Fantasy_XIV%29

    Before the job system came ingame the classes were more like weapon skills. Level up a class was more like level up a weapon and the Sentinel level represented your shield level.

    Yoshida thought that confuse the players and removed Sentinel. But forgot to give THM some shield skills. I'm sure the real reason he did it was to nerf THM. No solo kill on Dodore anymore.
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    Last edited by Felis; 11-15-2014 at 12:48 AM.

  2. #182
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    This is how I see the community...
    30% want 1.23b combat back again.
    40% want a far better game.
    30% dont care.

    Really wish there is a better game out there right now so I have more reason to leave ARR. Heavensward looks like it does very little to step into the right direction. From what yoshi says its pretty much the samething as the current the ARR. Weekly lockouts/weekly loot lockouts, capping weekly points, doing primal/boss fights, beasttribes/beastmen dallies etc.

    Only step I see them doing right is adding airships/flying mounts and making the game more open world. I think most players here just want their old XI/pre abyssea game back and after Tanaka ruined 1.0 & XI I think we been just been hanging around here. 3 major things id like to see happen to this game. 1. change the battle system, 2. Make the game way more open world. 3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.

    Do those 3 things that your currently not doing and your game will be more successful. 1.0->1.23b was least 50-80% more successful because you did it. Just do it again.
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  3. #183
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    Skai Rossi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    This is how I see the community...
    30% want 1.23b combat back again.
    40% want a far better game.
    30% dont care.

    Really wish there is a better game out there right now so I have more reason to leave ARR. Heavensward looks like it does very little to step into the right direction. From what yoshi says its pretty much the samething as the current the ARR. Weekly lockouts/weekly loot lockouts, capping weekly points, doing primal/boss fights, beasttribes/beastmen dallies etc.

    Only step I see them doing right is adding airships/flying mounts and making the game more open world. I think most players here just want their old XI/pre abyssea game back and after Tanaka ruined 1.0 & XI I think we been just been hanging around here. 3 major things id like to see happen to this game. 1. change the battle system, 2. Make the game way more open world. 3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.
    Do those 3 things that your currently not doing and your game will be more successful. 1.0->1.23b was least 50-80% more successful because you did it. Just do it again.


    Couldn't agree more with this!
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    This is how I see the community...
    30% want 1.23b combat back again.
    40% want a far better game.
    30% dont care.
    Pulled from no where.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    1. change the battle system, 2. Make the game way more open world. 3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.
    Easier said than done. Honestly at this point I wouldn't expect any changes to the battle system, but as the game expands 2 and 3 will naturally happen anyway. The game is still quite young for an MMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    1.0->1.23b was least 50-80% more successful because you did it. Just do it again.
    The utter failure and widespread fan dislike completely disagrees with this highly inflated number. Your personal opinion does not equal the majority opinion. The game failed for obvious reasons that have been discussed to death. They will never back track at this point. I hope you realize that.
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Easier said than done. Honestly at this point I wouldn't expect any changes to the battle system, but as the game expands 2 and 3 will naturally happen anyway. The game is still quite young for an MMO.
    What is it on.. its 4th year going on its 5th..?
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  6. #186
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    Altimis Vaara
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    What is it on.. its 4th year going on its 5th..?
    It's barely a year old. Just because there was some other rubbish under the same name doesn't make it older.
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  7. #187
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    Delmania Shadowstar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    What is it on.. its 4th year going on its 5th..?
    1 year. 2.0 is essentially a new game.
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  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    This is how I see the community...
    30% want 1.23b combat back again.
    40% want a far better game.
    30% dont care.
    If you're basing these numbers on a single forum posts, you should realize forums generally are not considered a good place to gather opinion, since the people who post on them tend to be slanted towards complaining. Suffice to say, the game is doing well.

    Really wish there is a better game out there right now so I have more reason to leave ARR. Heavensward looks like it does very little to step into the right direction. From what yoshi says its pretty much the samething as the current the ARR. Weekly lockouts/weekly loot lockouts, capping weekly points, doing primal/boss fights, beasttribes/beastmen dallies etc.
    I believe Yoshi made it clear FFXIV is a themepark raiding MMO. What exactly were you expecting?

    Only step I see them doing right is adding airships/flying mounts and making the game more open world.
    Because flying mounts worked so well in WoW! Nothing like giving people an opportunity to just skip over content and challenges!

    I think most players here just want their old XI/pre abyssea game back and after Tanaka ruined 1.0 & XI I think we been just been hanging around here. 3 major things id like to see happen to this game.
    Projecting much? Seriously, if you don't like to game, quit. Even better, stop playing for a week.

    1. change the battle system,
    To what? FFXI style combat where we all sat around waiting for TP to build? Such fun!

    2. Make the game way more open world.
    I can agree with this one. However, expecting Skyrim is unrealisitc

    3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.
    Such as?


    Do those3 things that your currently not doing and your game will be more successful. 1.0->1.23b was least 50-80% more successful because you did it. Just do it again.
    By all accounts, the game is doing successful enough to keep funding it.
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  9. #189
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    It's an entirely new engine, new server, completely redesigned world, new battle system, etc. The thing reused was some art onlyart song assets. Some of which were taken from past games to begin with. 2.0 is a different game. More like a sequel than anything.
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  10. #190
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    Game is still 4-5th old in my opinion cus they use bunch of things from 1.0 still in this game. Not saying its a bad thing but people saying its a completely new game are blinded.
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