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    This is how I see the community...
    30% want 1.23b combat back again.
    40% want a far better game.
    30% dont care.

    Really wish there is a better game out there right now so I have more reason to leave ARR. Heavensward looks like it does very little to step into the right direction. From what yoshi says its pretty much the samething as the current the ARR. Weekly lockouts/weekly loot lockouts, capping weekly points, doing primal/boss fights, beasttribes/beastmen dallies etc.

    Only step I see them doing right is adding airships/flying mounts and making the game more open world. I think most players here just want their old XI/pre abyssea game back and after Tanaka ruined 1.0 & XI I think we been just been hanging around here. 3 major things id like to see happen to this game. 1. change the battle system, 2. Make the game way more open world. 3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.

    Do those 3 things that your currently not doing and your game will be more successful. 1.0->1.23b was least 50-80% more successful because you did it. Just do it again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    This is how I see the community...
    30% want 1.23b combat back again.
    40% want a far better game.
    30% dont care.

    Really wish there is a better game out there right now so I have more reason to leave ARR. Heavensward looks like it does very little to step into the right direction. From what yoshi says its pretty much the samething as the current the ARR. Weekly lockouts/weekly loot lockouts, capping weekly points, doing primal/boss fights, beasttribes/beastmen dallies etc.

    Only step I see them doing right is adding airships/flying mounts and making the game more open world. I think most players here just want their old XI/pre abyssea game back and after Tanaka ruined 1.0 & XI I think we been just been hanging around here. 3 major things id like to see happen to this game. 1. change the battle system, 2. Make the game way more open world. 3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.
    Do those 3 things that your currently not doing and your game will be more successful. 1.0->1.23b was least 50-80% more successful because you did it. Just do it again.


    Couldn't agree more with this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    This is how I see the community...
    30% want 1.23b combat back again.
    40% want a far better game.
    30% dont care.
    Pulled from no where.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    1. change the battle system, 2. Make the game way more open world. 3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.
    Easier said than done. Honestly at this point I wouldn't expect any changes to the battle system, but as the game expands 2 and 3 will naturally happen anyway. The game is still quite young for an MMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    1.0->1.23b was least 50-80% more successful because you did it. Just do it again.
    The utter failure and widespread fan dislike completely disagrees with this highly inflated number. Your personal opinion does not equal the majority opinion. The game failed for obvious reasons that have been discussed to death. They will never back track at this point. I hope you realize that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Easier said than done. Honestly at this point I wouldn't expect any changes to the battle system, but as the game expands 2 and 3 will naturally happen anyway. The game is still quite young for an MMO.
    What is it on.. its 4th year going on its 5th..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    What is it on.. its 4th year going on its 5th..?
    It's barely a year old. Just because there was some other rubbish under the same name doesn't make it older.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    What is it on.. its 4th year going on its 5th..?
    1 year. 2.0 is essentially a new game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    This is how I see the community...
    30% want 1.23b combat back again.
    40% want a far better game.
    30% dont care.
    If you're basing these numbers on a single forum posts, you should realize forums generally are not considered a good place to gather opinion, since the people who post on them tend to be slanted towards complaining. Suffice to say, the game is doing well.

    Really wish there is a better game out there right now so I have more reason to leave ARR. Heavensward looks like it does very little to step into the right direction. From what yoshi says its pretty much the samething as the current the ARR. Weekly lockouts/weekly loot lockouts, capping weekly points, doing primal/boss fights, beasttribes/beastmen dallies etc.
    I believe Yoshi made it clear FFXIV is a themepark raiding MMO. What exactly were you expecting?

    Only step I see them doing right is adding airships/flying mounts and making the game more open world.
    Because flying mounts worked so well in WoW! Nothing like giving people an opportunity to just skip over content and challenges!

    I think most players here just want their old XI/pre abyssea game back and after Tanaka ruined 1.0 & XI I think we been just been hanging around here. 3 major things id like to see happen to this game.
    Projecting much? Seriously, if you don't like to game, quit. Even better, stop playing for a week.

    1. change the battle system,
    To what? FFXI style combat where we all sat around waiting for TP to build? Such fun!

    2. Make the game way more open world.
    I can agree with this one. However, expecting Skyrim is unrealisitc

    3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.
    Such as?


    Do those3 things that your currently not doing and your game will be more successful. 1.0->1.23b was least 50-80% more successful because you did it. Just do it again.
    By all accounts, the game is doing successful enough to keep funding it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    1. change the battle system, 2. Make the game way more openworld. 3. Add new content that differs from any other content in the game.
    1) I feel the battle system works for the most part for what the game is and how it is supposed to function. A lot of people seem to want a no GCD, faster, no enforced Trinity setup like GW2. While I enjoyed GW2's open world leveling content, its end game and dungeons were terrible. It was a zerg everything mess with no real strategy or synergy in which everyone just ran around spamming their abilities as if they were soloing and other people just happened to be there. Actually that is kind of how the whole game felt. I am all for more intense, interesting and complex, random or what have you battles, but that can be accomplished through content design and not redoing the battle system itself. While not by noticeable leaps and bounds, I feel that the boss and dungeon design has gotten somewhat better and more interesting.

    2) I will agree with you that this game world feels more restricted and closed off than certain other MMO's, however not to quite the extent that many people seem to make out to be. Many other MMO's have had at least one expansion under its belt before players in the Americas or Europe even got their hands on them, with the exceptions of course of EQ and WoW but those do not represent the entirety of all MMO's. Also, the Dev team has taken this feedback into account and Yoshida has expressed that for the expansion, they are trying to have a more open world.

    3) Hunts, Treasure Chests/Maps, Sightseeing Log, Moogle Mail Delivery, that questline where you have to solve the ancient riddle, other random bits of content I don't remember off the top of my head. Point being, they have, are, and will be adding new and varied types of gameplay content that are quite different than a lot of the existing content. Problem is most people either don't do this ancillary content, don't know it exists, or don't appreciate it. On this note, I can't wait to see the Golden Saucer once it is released.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 11-15-2014 at 02:51 AM.