Break the Trinity System Please

[Shadex]

There is little to no skill to buffing/debuffing...

That statement made my LOL. In an MMO world of DPS classes where you could literally face role the keyboard and do your job I found that funny. Honestly, the most challenging aspect of playing a support/CC class is dealing with the rest of your 'own' team that can't be bothered to pay attention to marks, sleeps, roots, debuffs, etc because they are too busy face rolling their class while watching Yu-Gi-Oh on Hulu.

Any class/job can be challenging and fun if played to its potential. How many of us have grouped with MNKs and DRGs that never move from a single position? Played correctly can those classes be challenging? Sure, but so can a support class if played and implemented correctly.

[Giantbane]

That statement made my LOL. In an MMO world of DPS classes where you could literally face role the keyboard and do your job I found that funny. Honestly, the most challenging aspect of playing a support/CC class is dealing with the rest of your 'own' team that can't be bothered to pay attention to marks, sleeps, roots, debuffs, etc because they are too busy face rolling their class while watching Yu-Gi-Oh on Hulu.

Any class/job can be challenging and fun if played to its potential. How many of us have grouped with MNKs and DRGs that never move from a single position? Played correctly can those classes be challenging? Sure, but so can a support class if played and
implemented correctly.

DPSing "well" in FFXIV usually requires you to do more than face roll your job.

Besides, it sounds like you're saying a support/CC class is challenging when your own team isn't doing their jobs. Support/CC would be redundant in this situation as your own team should have just done its job in the first place.

[fireslash]

any class so far able to use slow skill?

[ReplicaX]

any class so far able to use slow skill?

Weapon Skills with 20% Slow additional effect.
PUG
LNC

[NolLacnala]

any class so far able to use slow skill?

THM has Lethargy, 20% Slow and Heavy

[Shadex]

DPSing "well" in FFXIV usually requires you to do more than face roll your job.

Besides, it sounds like you're saying a support/CC class is challenging when your own team isn't doing their jobs. Support/CC would be redundant in this situation as your own team should have just done its job in the first place.

I said the 'most' challenging. Playing any class can be challenging if your team is not doing its job. If a tank won't stop rotating or moving a target so you can get proper flank and rear positioning adds challenge to a DRG or MNK. But that does not say that playing those classes properly is not challenging regardless. It just seemed rather one sided to claim that support classes offer no challenge at all. Play a proper support class correctly and they can be just as challenging and rewarding as any other position.

[Granyala]

The idea of support classes surely is nice but they are way more of a headache than they are worth in practice.

Once they design encounters with their support in mind they become mandatory for every raid, similar to WoWs Sunwell back in the day.
Not enough Shadows / Shamans online? Well cancel the raid.

As far as a broken trinity goes: Guild Wars 2 tried that and the content ended up being a horrible zerg fest. No thanks.

[Roris]

any class so far able to use slow skill?

Shadow Flare applies a 5% slow for as long as it's up.

[Madoka]

any class so far able to use slow skill?

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lnc
thm
acn

[Jthreau]

I enjoy the trinity system. It keeps everything fairly streamlined and allows for faster queue times. Breaking this system would result in 4 - 8 randoms jobs being thrown together for what would end up being an extremely unpleasant experience. I would much rather see support classes fall into the existing categories. Bard is an excellent example of this. They do damage while being able to support their allies via ballads.