Break the Trinity System Please

[LeCard]

Ironically, i got most of my currently 236 Commendations while leveling my BRD, and i got those by snapping my Tp/MP songs on and off, timing the Song uptime to one of my many (I feel for this reason) Damage increasing skills.

It drives me insane to see BRDs sing one song for their entire MP bar and then be like, well i cant sing anymore. Pewpewpew

Drives me crazy too, but that is part of the problem. The ballads don't offer an easily noticeable bonuses so the average bard will pop one and leave it. The fact that the class is called "Bard" should mean that the ballads play more into the role of the job than a side boost that the best bards will make great use of while average/poor bards will kind of make use of them.

With the system now, you earned those commendations by being top tier at your job but anyone below that probably wont ever realize how to do that. (and if they do they probably wont really be able to optimize their use of it)

[Sylve]

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I think the Songs just need more visual aura when its active on people. Its incredibly noticeable on my Monk when i get the TP song, it literally suspends my TP expenditure (MY SS is too high, so i end up spending TP at an insane rate)
Likewise on my WHM, Having a Ballad active forces me to full MP no matter how hard i dump spells. Its just that if you don't look for the icon ... You don't see that its active, even if you can see the effects. I Advocate the spell effect being accompanied by a visual aura on affected people, not too obnoxious, but big enough to be seen, so when you see it, You KNOW a BRD is singing. (Personally i want the musical notes from the King Mog Trial >_>)
Also, I'm ok with a system that rewards proper use of skills. On the other hand, if they made it too powerful, BRDs would be "must haves" for all content. I think its in a good spot power wise, just needs visual help

[LeCard]

I think the Songs just need more visual aura when its active on people.
Likewise on my WHM, Having a Ballad active forces me to full MP no matter how hard i dump spells. Its just that if you don't look for the icon ... You don't see that its active, even if you can see the effects. I Advocate the spell effect being accompanied by a visual aura on affected people, not too obnoxious, but big enough to be seen, so when you see it, You KNOW a BRD is singing.
Also, I'm ok with a system that rewards proper use of skills. I think its in a good spot power wise, just needs visual help

unless something has changed since I touched my bard (admittedly it's been a while) the bard can't see others TP only mp. so the bard isn't really able to tell that that song it helping anyone but themselves unless your on voice or something telling the bard. Definitely the visual, very much.

[Sylve]

unless something has changed since I touched my bard (admittedly it's been a while) the bard can't see others TP only mp. so the bard isn't really able to tell that that song it helping anyone but themselves unless your on voice or something telling the bard. Definitely the visual, very much.

Well, I''l admit here that i've kinda memorized the speed at which my TP Jobs blow TP, and use that knowledge to time my songs for others. I also encourage people to make call outs if they need the song. I do like to tell them to just input gibberish lol, it actually works. Its hard to mistake when a DRG suddenly screams UJIGPUIYFVHLGPO, its a bit quicker to throw that out than a polite and legible song request. >_>

[LeCard]

Well, I''l admit here that i've kinda memorized the speed at which my TP Jobs blow TP, and use that knowledge to time my songs for others. I also encourage people to make call outs if they need the song. I do like to tell them to just input gibberish lol, it actually works. Its hard to mistake when a DRG suddenly screams UJIGPUIYFVHLGPO, its a bit quicker to throw that out than a polite and legible song request. >_>

I'm stealing that if/when my brd sees combat again. (been on a big crafter/gather kick lately). Though it would be nice if they could just tack that third bar to the party menu, who knows why it isn't there.

Also, how in all that is bardly did you memorize time like that? my sense of time is no where near accurate enough to manage that XD

[Sylve]

I'm stealing that if/when my brd sees combat again. (been on a big crafter/gather kick lately). Though it would be nice if they could just tack that third bar to the party menu, who knows why it isn't there.

Also, how in all that is bardly did you memorize time like that? my sense of time is no where near accurate enough to manage that XD

I spent an ungodly amount of time in Titan HM DF on those Jobs for Relics ... And most of them were before the server speed ups in regards to location checking. So many fun times were had getting killed by phantom Weights and Asslides.