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    balanced123's Avatar
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    Lina Inverse
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60

    Feedback: I hate venture tokens.

    The idea of having a junior adventurer go out and help with stuff that's great cool I get it.
    The fact I have to waste an inventory slot and farm tokens for something that has an extensive time cooldown anyway?
    Not so much.
    This system is very time intensive.
    1) Farming for ventures involves either alot of hunt or Grand Company or leave grinding. Not fun.
    2) To be "optimal" one has to be logged in 24/7. Yes there are long ventures, but you get one "roll" vs ?12? and the odds don't seem to be better for the longer ventures.
    3) It's near impossible to have all 4 retainers out constantly and not run out of ventures.

    Idea:
    Remove the venture token.
    Allow adventures to pay retainers in Gil.
    Or better yet, just remove the cost and stick with the time / upkeep cost.
    Other option: make ventures tradable.
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    OdinEon's Avatar
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    Char Landale
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 81
    You can buy venture tokens with gc seals, very minimal cost, you get twenty five tokens, my seals are almost always capped, not tough to come up with the seals.
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    Malfoy Fleurentine
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Ventures are pretty easy to accumulate anyways? I do think you have a point though that they take up an inventory slot. It would be nice if they were listed under currency or something instead.
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    Lina Inverse
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinEon View Post
    You can buy venture tokens with gc seals, very minimal cost, you get twenty five tokens, my seals are almost always capped, not tough to come up with the seals.
    Where do you get 25 ventures from? O_o I see x5 from vendors.

    **Edit Let us look at this another way. 1,000 gc seals = 5 ventures. 1,500 seals will get you 1x crafting item.
    I could spend on ventures and have 5x 1/1000 chance of not getting a fish... or I can craft something.
    Same for Allied Seals. I could save and get a piece of gear or roll for a gamble.

    Fun systems should be fun, not make you choose between progress and random loot.
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    Last edited by balanced123; 10-30-2014 at 06:49 AM. Reason: Second thought

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    Razai Sylvain
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    GC Seals are not hard to come by... especially end game. It only seems that way when you are burdened with obtaining 2k for your chocobo, other than that ventures are fine as is IMO. If you don't want random loot then don't do ventures. Problem solved. My retainers bring back Allagan tin and other items when on the 18h venture. Don't know about you, but I can always use more gil. Also thathelps with progression as things cost gil...

    Only request I have is to cut the time on 18 hr ventures down to like 10 hours or something 18 is just a wtf number for in or out game time lol.
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    C'mell Cordwainer
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    Goblin
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    My retainer is lazy. I give her two ventures and an hour, and she comes back with... ten lightning shards? What, she walked around to three trees, called that good, and skipped off to have a chai latte with the other retainers?
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    Isagael Rose
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    Sagittarius
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    Botanist Lv 100
    I see what you're saying OP, but the balance in the retainer venture system IS the amount of time/expense of earning ventures in the first place. After all, if you choose to, you can have up to 4 retainers on each of your characters on one world....considering you can have 8 characters per world, that's a lot of ventures....but by making it so that it actually takes some effort to procure ventures, it eliminates the whole venture process being easy to do on 'storage alts' per se. You will naturally earn enough ventures doing normal in-game things to support your main character...and maybe one alt (if you play it occasionally as well), but you likely won't have a 32 retainer venture army at your disposal (I'm sure someone does...but that is basically all they do).

    If you could send your retainers out w/o ventures....and/or if you could amass ventures even easier, it would create an imbalance in the system.
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    Kuwaitum's Avatar
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    Ivory Spirit
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakuraluna View Post
    Ventures are pretty easy to accumulate anyways? I do think you have a point though that they take up an inventory slot. It would be nice if they were listed under currency or something instead.
    I agree it would be nice if the Venture Coins were put under Currency Tab (Slotless currency) as Seals & Gil (since they are untradable).

    I don't see anything imbalanced or not fair, it is a "Venture" in the first place. I wish my retainers returned with at least crafting mats or a crafted item every time they return, usually I get fish & kelp weed. On the other hand, I got several Gathering Teir IV materia from my Botanist retainer, I was like wow! and super happy.

    I admit I'd like better items then Kelp & Fish.. other then that its good so far.
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    Veronica Venom
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    Siren
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    Archer Lv 90
    1 A hunt = 20 Allied Seals = 10 Ventures = a couple minutes of your time. Look at it that way.
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    Salem Parrini
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    at lv 50 at least, I don't find myself struggling to get ventures or GC seals. Can't really speak for everyone though, but it's pretty effortless for me. Also pls don't make me pay them gil to send them out. The reason I send them out is (mostly) to get stuff back that I can sell to make money.

    I like the idea of ventures being listed as currency rather than taking up inventory space.

    As for the optimal thing, I don't get it. I mean, no you can't send out retainers when you're offline. But then, you can't level your character or gather materials or craft items when you're offline either. Arguably to optimize your gaming experience as a whole, you'd have to be online 24/7. I'm not sure why that's an issue you have with retainers.
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