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  1. #51
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    PureEclipse's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Kiranoa Eclipse
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    Twintania
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    yeh has been proved , DF party trys to put 1 tank 1 healer 1 MELEE (first ) 1 RANGED (second) , if no ranged DF trys for 2 melees , else 2 ranged.

    so atm there are millions of melees on queue rdps have an easy way ,before 2.4 my DRG queues for DF expert were 15 min , my bard? 30min+ , same goes for Syrcus tower , DRG was almost instant (1-5 min) , brd? 30 mins
    I get ST in about 5 minutes on my Bard, no more than 10 and that's just cause people still drop and pay no attention to the window pop. So, the theory, is still just a theory.
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  2. #52
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    wicked-one's Avatar
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    Azul Earendil
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    Shiva
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    I Canceled like 3 times each one for 60+ min. and I haven't gotten in yet ( about 3 hours and counting). Can SE make the DF work for DD's too?
    You can´t fix a social problem by technical means...
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  3. #53
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    BreathlessTao's Avatar
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    Character
    Shuu Naranol
    World
    Omega
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    Summoner Lv 100
    But but but we have rogue/ninja now!! Isn't that awesome??? =o
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  4. #54
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    Yhoiryo's Avatar
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    Snowy Dreams
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    Gilgamesh
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    Paladin Lv 90


    What's wrong with DPS ques?

    I kid though since melee/ranged ques are different and no ninja would be in the range of these dungeons at only an one hour and forty minutes into 2.4
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  5. #55
    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    yeh has been proved , DF party trys to put 1 tank 1 healer 1 MELEE (first ) 1 RANGED (second) , if no ranged DF trys for 2 melees , else 2 ranged.

    so atm there are millions of melees on queue rdps have an easy way ,before 2.4 my DRG queues for DF expert were 15 min , my bard? 30min+ , same goes for Syrcus tower , DRG was almost instant (1-5 min) , brd? 30 mins
    You are half correct, it was around 2.28 when the queues were separated for melee and ranged, but you are wrong by assuming melee had priority, the reason why melee queues have always been shorter than ranged is just because of class disparity, 2 melee vs 3 ranged, obviously the ranged queue would be busier, not to mention that all 3 ranged classes are popular (specially Bard), while in the melee side monk is not very popular, the system will try to match 1 melee and 1 ranged over anything else, so even if you queued over an hour ago on a melee a ranged can just sneak past and get instant queue if there are no other ranged, as the queue will give him priority over that second melee who has been waiting for over an hour. This system works well outside this current case of "everybody wants to be naruto".
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
    There isn't any incentive for tanks & healers to do low level dungeons. The rewards are too low for the time required to do them.

    Also, any tank or healer that ... say, already has their nexus but wants to work on the nexus for their DPS class is stuck farming light on their DPS class. So there's some incentive not to play desired classes when you're working on that.

    And again, even if there was some way to earn light for your DPS class while tanking a lower level dungeon, again, the reward sucks, since it's so much more time efficient to farm the current bonus HM primal.
    Well said I only run trials and expert roulette. I havent touch the other roulette's in months and will not touch them any time soon.
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  7. #57
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    Sonatia's Avatar
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    Sonatia Aureline
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    Tonberry
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by reillyblair View Post
    they need some npc healers and tanks for when none are available that would fix the queues
    Would be awesome. Kind of reminds me of PSO2. There would still be a strong incentive to party with real players because of AI limitations and the social aspect, but it would beat waiting for 4 hours like an idiot (like I did last night for Embers). Then again, the unique snowflakes type might cry because DPS players wouldn't be grovelling at their feet anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hurlstone View Post
    I must admit, I picked a bad time to fall in love with Lancer/Dragoon... wait times are usually 60-70 mins, with the last reaching 100 before I decided to call it a night.
    Aye, we're on the same boat, fellow LNC. I'd never touch dungeons if they're not mandatory on some main quests, and I need to do those to get my first mount. Really bad timing to level a DPS class.
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  8. #58
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    Vespar's Avatar
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    Leyna Crosse
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    I spent 89 minutes in queue today for low level, and nearly 3 hours in queue yesterday (but it was 3 or 4am NA time)... I really hope that in the future they consider the repercussions of what happens when they only add one class (specifically a DPS only) I love ninja, but I'm the type that likes to learn my role in dungeons and only using FATE's/Leve's to finish off a level if I'm close (or farming atma). I prefer leveling in dungeons.
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  9. #59
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    Kyoskai's Avatar
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    Kyoskai Darklaw
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    DPS begin step up to queue
    Force switch every 3rd DPS queue'r to tank/healer.
    ????
    Solve world queue hunger

    OR
    Have a class roulette queue and make the rewards awesome, but you only roll tank/healer when you use it.
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  10. #60
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    Marisela's Avatar
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    Thasha Kathea
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    This is why it's not a good ideas to add a new DPS job now. It's gonna get better when they released new Tank and Healer Jobs to balance it. Like everyone said, it is not broken, everyone is leveling up new job since there is only really one new job. I see people doing FATES and Lev Quest though while waiting. May as well be faster then Dungeon at this point. Just wait for it to died down a bit when everyone get their Ninja to 50.
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