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    Aqua_Amaiyo's Avatar
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    Atma drop rate Post-2.4 patch

    Anyone noticed a significant different yet? I've only done like, 1 atma relic, and didn't bother with anymore because of the annoyance with the 1st. If it's better this time around I'll actually get the other 6 Atma relics I need.
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    Guildie got 3 different atma's in 15 minutes after the update, but who knows if the RNG demon was just playing games.
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    Yea I'm super curious because I've been getting mixed messages from my FC mates, some were saying they were getting atma every 3 out of 5 fates, others were saying they were getting literally nothing.
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    Considering original droprates were ~1%, it's going to be quite some time before we get enough data to determine how much they were increased by.
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    I discussed this with my FC mates yesterday after one of them mentioned getting an Atma crystal on nigh every FATE that they've done. We've discussed the increased drop rate, as were mentioned in the patch notes. Though the rate has been increased, I'm quite sure that it is still possible to not have the favor of the RNG gods and have zero Atma crystals drop after doing tents of FATEs over the span of ten or more hours.
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    I LIKE the fence. I get 2 groups to laugh at then.

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    People lose track of time. The original rate was definitely not 1%. Why? Because people think they are completing 50 fates per hour when in reality most people average 10. Yes 10. That's one fate completed every 6 minutes. Traveling from one fate to another will average you 2 minutes, factor in a couple minutes of actual fate time, waiting for new fates to pop, etc. - you average around 10-15 per hour tops.

    The average person finished the atma phase in 20-30 hours. If you do the math - it roughly comes out to a 5% drop rate. If it were a 1% drop rate, this thing would be averaging 100 hours for everybody.

    The new drop rate seems to be around 15-20%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    People lose track of time. .
    People who calculate based on time spent on atmas don't know what they are talking about, amount of fates done are more accurate, before patch those unlucky ones usually took around 100 fates per atma, while most people were sitting around 50 fates per atma, and then there were the lucky ones with less than 10 fates per atma.

    If you're wondering how do people know they did 100 fates, there's an achievement that keeps track of all fates you do (up to 3000).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    People lose track of time. The original rate was definitely not 1%. Why? Because people think they are completing 50 fates per hour when in reality most people average 10. Yes 10. That's one fate completed every 6 minutes...
    People have been using the FATE achievements to track # completed (minus any they had before starting the Atma quest) and then dividing that out from the number of Atma they had, usually 8-12 to deliver a sufficient sample size, to find the % of FATEs that dropped an Atma for them. These rates were averaged out to roughly 1-2%.

    The people doing serious data collection on Atmas were not using their imaginations as a test pool.
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    video games are bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krr View Post
    People have been using the FATE achievements to track # completed (minus any they had before starting the Atma quest) and then dividing that out from the number of Atma they had, usually 8-12 to deliver a sufficient sample size, to find the % of FATEs that dropped an Atma for them. These rates were averaged out to roughly 1-2%.

    The people doing serious data collection on Atmas were not using their imaginations as a test pool.
    like the guy who opened a god knows how many site thread where he seriously stated that he did 3.000 fates during 1 week and got no atma?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ServerCollaps View Post
    like the guy who opened a god knows how many site thread where he seriously stated that he did 3.000 fates during 1 week and got no atma?
    The guy who claimed having done 3,000 fates in a week and not having seen an Atma is what we call an 'outlier'. We cull outliers from statistical data.

    He also wasn't doing serious data collection.
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    video games are bad

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