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  1. #11
    Player Alukah's Avatar
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    Alukah Bast
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    People lose track of time. .
    People who calculate based on time spent on atmas don't know what they are talking about, amount of fates done are more accurate, before patch those unlucky ones usually took around 100 fates per atma, while most people were sitting around 50 fates per atma, and then there were the lucky ones with less than 10 fates per atma.

    If you're wondering how do people know they did 100 fates, there's an achievement that keeps track of all fates you do (up to 3000).
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    Masamune Branford
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post
    I finally got my 12th atma from my first FATE after patch. Where I had been spending the last month or so, semi AFK doing FATES if they would spawn on me. I would usually end up only doing 4-8 FATES a night.

    Kind of off topic - But I noticed they raised the cost of books for the next part of the quest. My friends bought their books at 1,500Myth before patch and now they are 500Sold. When I Exchanged my myth for soldiery I got 500 Soldiery for my 2,000 Mythology so that's a 4 to 1 exchange rate, which means they upped the cost by 25% :/
    The conversion rate is funky. It should have been 50%. When you run roulettes and dungeons that used to give you 100 myth, they now give you 50 soldiery. So in actuality - books are a little cheaper. It's pretty much the equivalent if the book prices dropped from 1,500 myth to 1,000 myth.
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  3. #13
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    EzriNuru's Avatar
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    Hawthorne Nuru
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I have farmed all 12 Atma since patch hit, I would guess the drop rate is around 10% now. I kept track of how many fates I did and it came out to be 117 for 12 Atma.
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  4. #14
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    Cyrus Twirkin
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Purely anecdotal evidence here, but I got the 7 Atma I was missing in the span of roughly 3 hours.
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    Suzuko Seki
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Probably..I got two of the same atmas while helping a friend in 30 minutes..
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Enthy View Post
    Kind of off topic - But I noticed they raised the cost of books for the next part of the quest. My friends bought their books at 1,500Myth before patch and now they are 500Sold. When I Exchanged my myth for soldiery I got 500 Soldiery for my 2,000 Mythology so that's a 4 to 1 exchange rate, which means they upped the cost by 25% :/
    They are cheaper than they were after 2.2
    The soldiery duty reward is now like the myth duty reward was after 2.2. But the books have already cost 1500 myth after 2.2, so with only 500 sold after 2.4 it is cheaper.
    Soldiery duty reward will increase again with 2.5, like it was with myth and 2.3
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    Murah Jhida
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    People lose track of time. The original rate was definitely not 1%. Why? Because people think they are completing 50 fates per hour when in reality most people average 10. Yes 10. That's one fate completed every 6 minutes...
    People have been using the FATE achievements to track # completed (minus any they had before starting the Atma quest) and then dividing that out from the number of Atma they had, usually 8-12 to deliver a sufficient sample size, to find the % of FATEs that dropped an Atma for them. These rates were averaged out to roughly 1-2%.

    The people doing serious data collection on Atmas were not using their imaginations as a test pool.
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    video games are bad

  8. #18
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    Tiri Thon
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 90
    A guy in my FC got all 12 in about 5 hours. He estimated no more than 120 fates.
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  9. #19
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by MasamuneBranford View Post
    People lose track of time. The original rate was definitely not 1%. Why? Because people think they are completing 50 fates per hour when in reality most people average 10. Yes 10. That's one fate completed every 6 minutes. Traveling from one fate to another will average you 2 minutes, factor in a couple minutes of actual fate time, waiting for new fates to pop, etc. - you average around 10-15 per hour tops.

    The average person finished the atma phase in 20-30 hours. If you do the math - it roughly comes out to a 5% drop rate. If it were a 1% drop rate, this thing would be averaging 100 hours for everybody.

    The new drop rate seems to be around 15-20%.
    The original drop rate definitely was around about 1%. There was a lengthy post here on the forums collating data from many many players to get to that number. This is precisely why it was such a problem; 1% meant it was very possible to never see an atma crystal after weeks of farming...

    By the sounds of it the new drop rate is more than substantial.
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    Sunako Kirishiki
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I farmed all 12 atmas my paladin today in 6 - 7 hours or something like that. Before that take over week get full set of atmas.
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