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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyalia View Post
    So, each of the Artisan's body pieces gives +0 Craftsmanship and +3 Control over AF. The gloves have the same stats as the Ixali gloves, but with 3 more CP.

    This means, with a Supra, you'll be able to avoid melding any Control onto your Artisan's Offhand if you want. You'll be at 436 Craftsmanship and 400 Control with the AF gear, and you need 451/407 to do four star crafts. With the Ixali gloves, the Artisan pants, and the Artisan feet, you'll have 409 Control. Then, you just need another 15 craftsmanship. You can get this by melding just Competence IV, Competence III, Competence II (or Competence IIIx3) into your offhand, which should be really cheap.

    Of course, the problem here is that you need to have the four star crafted items in order to make the four star crafted items like this... So, you may have to meld a single Command IV into your offhand and use the Ixali gloves to reach the Control requirements. But, once you have your artisan's pants/feet, you can possibly forego the control on your other offhands.

    Heck, you can almost avoid the Supra once you have the Artisan's body pieces, but you'll wind up either 1 craft or 3 control short =\

    I think I'll wind up melding into my offhands Command IV, Competence III, Competence III, Competence III, and then either Competence III or Cunning III. Should be pretty cheap, given I bought 31 Competence IIIs for 15k each just after the patch, and SBing IIIs is easy.
    Since the token item needed for the Supra is the same as the token needed for the Master 2 book which is needed to do 4 stars it doesn't make much sense to skip the supra. Since the Token items are super hard to HQ (from my understanding I'm still playing catch up with 3 star items) So any that you fail to HQ you can turn into a supra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yonko View Post
    Since the token item needed for the Supra is the same as the token needed for the Master 2 book which is needed to do 4 stars it doesn't make much sense to skip the supra. Since the Token items are super hard to HQ (from my understanding I'm still playing catch up with 3 star items) So any that you fail to HQ you can turn into a supra.
    While this is true, you're forgetting the three Mastercraft Demimateria you also need. On my server, that's about 3 million alone. I am trying to farm for them, but in 36 Artisan Spectacles, I obtained only ONE Mastercraft
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    4 Star *Equipment* Synthesis Rotations

    Hi All,

    If I may ask, what are the most successful HQ Rotations for the actual *Regular* 4 Star Equipment? (like Arachne Ninja Gear.)

    Also, I noticed the Control Requirement (407) for the Recipes means I need to eat Control Food (or get the Free Company Buff) right?

    Is it worth it for the loss of CP? (usually I'm so used to eating HQ Bouillabasse)

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara View Post
    Hi All,

    If I may ask, what are the most successful HQ Rotations for the actual *Regular* 4 Star Equipment? (like Arachne Ninja Gear.)

    Also, I noticed the Control Requirement (407) for the Recipes means I need to eat Control Food (or get the Free Company Buff) right?

    Is it worth it for the loss of CP? (usually I'm so used to eating HQ Bouillabasse)

    Thanks!
    It depends on your rotation, but control is the easiest requirement to hit with gear, you don't even need your supra to hit it. I'd worry about gearing up first before you start on 4 star crafting, unless your FC doesn't mind you using the craft/control buffs anytime you need to craft something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikpik View Post
    It depends on your rotation, but control is the easiest requirement to hit with gear, you don't even need your supra to hit it. I'd worry about gearing up first before you start on 4 star crafting, unless your FC doesn't mind you using the craft/control buffs anytime you need to craft something.
    Hi Bik,

    Thanks. Actually my gear is max melded w/ a Supra and Offhand is Quad-Melded Tier IVs. Tne only thing I didn't upgrade yet is the New Artisan's Hands, Pants and Feet (which is like a Chicken-and-Egg Catch 22?)... I mean I can't craft the new 4 Star Recipes I unlocked without Control Food or the FC Buffs to *get* the Artisans Pants that should then help me craft 4 Stars better? Hm...
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