First New Dungeon Experience - Seriously?

[Velox]

You couldn't get i110 (or weathered i100) from hunts. Only i90.

Hunts dropped tomestones (one of the biggest mistakes SE could have made) which could buy i100 weathered sets. It also drops Allied Seals and Blood-splattered Mark Logs, which can be used to get Sands and Oils of Time. Syrcus Tower also dropped sands and oils later on, making it INCREDIBLY easy to get i110.

[Lord_Zlatan]

You couldn't get i110 (or weathered i100) from hunts. Only i90.

you absolutely could, and you know it.

[Edli]

What did you expect from a minimum iLvl 80 dungeon while (probably) wearing full i110?

For it not to be i80 in the first place.

Go run the dungeon with a party where everyone is wearing i80 minimum

And where exactly would I find this hypothetical party of yours? Everyone and their mom is i100 and up, has been like that for the past few months. 6 months ago players were sitting at i90. 6 freaking months ago and today SE releases dungeons that are made for an even lower ilv.

[Velox]

We zerged down all the trash with ease, I mostly didn't have to leave Cleric Stance.

Our Loots? One Hero's Ring of Healing I had to pass b/c I have one already from about a year ago.

The rest Crafting Materials.

What is going on SE?

And Fenrir fight was ridiculously anti-climactic.

Cool story OP. Go run the dungeon with a party where everyone is wearing i80 minimum instead of i100+ and you might have a more exciting experience (get a tank that doesn't know how to use cooldowns for more hair-raising fun).

[Tupsi]

Cool story OP. Go run the dungeon with a party where everyone is wearing i80 minimum instead of i100+ and you might have a more exciting experience (get a tank that doesn't know how to use cooldowns for more hair-raising fun).

Wonder when people will realize artificial difficulty isn't difficulty.

[Alukah]

Wonder when people will realize artificial difficulty isn't difficulty.

And who said this was artificial difficulty? The dungeons are tuned for i80-i90, you are merely going to the recommended ilvl instead of overgearing it.

But it's always better to complain when you have the means to fix it.

[Krr]

And who said this was artificial difficulty? The dungeons are tuned for i80-i90, you are merely going to the recommended ilvl instead of overgearing it.

But it's always better to complain when you have the means to fix it.

Some people want to be challenged at their full potential utilizing all of their character tools, including gear they've earned, not constantly strap training weights to their character by removing gear they earned like some Dragon Ball Z garbage. That's what people mean by artificial difficulty - it's an inorganic way of playing the game to intentionally downgrade your gear just to be challenged in 4-player content.

[Alukah]

Some people want to be challenged at their full potential utilizing all of their character tools, including gear they've earned, not constantly strap training weights to their character by removing gear they earned like some Dragon Ball Z garbage. That's what people mean by artificial difficulty - it's an inorganic way of playing the game to intentionally downgrade your gear just to be challenged in 4-player content.

Sadly that's how they design encounters in this game, with a very specific ilvl in mind, with the current design the only content where players can be challenge at their full potential utilizing all of their character tools is the end game raid. Stating the obvious, overgearing content will diminish the difficulty, since this content was designed with i80-i90 the only way to experience the full challenge is by wearing said ilvl (or applying a forced ilvl sync, but I doubt anyone wants that) they wont release new dungeons for the current average ilvl just because those dungeons were designed with the lowest denominator in mind, and because they think coil is enough to satisfy those with the current meta ilvl (yes yes, I know they are wrong here).

And let's not forget they pretend to not know about the existence of a middle ground, hence why we have no "midcore" content, so until they acknowledge this you can use the means you have to adjust yourself to these low-end dungeons, if you truly want to enjoy them at their full difficulty.

There are many ways to fix this situation, like monster stats being based on the average ilvl party instead of a set ilvl (with a limit, of course), but doing this would also fix the issue of pushing/stacking phases in primals and coil fights, and since they want to make us feel as miserable as they can they won't try to fix it.

[Xystic]

Going to run it later with some guildies in iLvL 80 and.... without none of this youtube or internet assistance.

Tonight in vent its going to be.

"So um... wtf just happened?"

Maybe we will get one of the guys to stream it live on twitch.

[Kiara1]

i did them all this morning. Satasha hard was hard tbh, we couldn't figure out the 2nd boss so i had to pop benediction, presence of mind, divine seal and one quickcast just to keep my bard alive when he was targeted. She popped second wind too. That was super fun