SE Why Do You Hate Hunts?

[Renarudo]

You now have to have a coil static to upgrade your gear or wait a few months, because Square can't be bothered to reward anyone except people playing the way they want.

I will disagree with this by saying that the people who tackle the harder content should be the ones rewarded with first dibs on higher tiered loot, because they're working the hardest. I'm perfectly ok with Coil groups having bragging rights to 130 gear and 135 weapons, because they deserve it for their hard work.

[SarcasmMisser]

There was no reason to make BOTH sets of new gear dependent on having a steady coil static. That's just telling everyone else who plays that they really don't give a crap about you.

The developers decide the terms of how you obtain gear not the player otherwise the idea of the biggest carrot for the hardest challenge would be severely restricted. The people I know who play casually respect that but hey, if everyone thought that way I wouldn't be able to enjoy reading the helpless complaints like this for the next 3 months hahaha.

[Enjuden]

There was no reason to make BOTH sets of new gear dependent on having a steady coil static. That's just telling everyone else who plays that they really don't give a crap about you.

Maybe your server was different, but when hunts were as prevalent as they were, there was nobody running Coil 2 or Ramuh EX unless you already had a static. People will always go for the easiest path possible when it comes to higher level gear, and that was hunts to get your free i110 gear. If you're not screwing people who do hunts, you're screwing people who currently do not have Coil on farm.

The community has already decided how hunts versus Coil will go. One will get picked, and the other is going to be left in the dust. That's the reality of having end game loot in content that should not have end game loot.

[Kinseykinz]

There was no reason to make BOTH sets of new gear dependent on having a steady coil static. That's just telling everyone else who plays that they really don't give a crap about you.

They didn't.

The new gear in patch 2.4 works exactly like it did in 2.2.

People challenging the current coil turns get a chance at coil gear + the key items to boost poetics. (Keep in mind, only 1-2 of these items might drop a week for each group, and they have to 'share' it...so it's still exceptionally rare even for a coiler to get said key item).
People not challenging it only have access to unboosted poetics.

That said, once 2.5 comes out, the final chapter of Crystal Tower will likely have the same boost key items.

So yes, if you don't challenge coil, you're being rewarded 'slower' but seriously, the ilvl 110-120 gear is enough to challenge AND beat everything in the game atm....everything else is overkill. And no, if you aren't doing the hardest content, you shouldn't be able to earn the 'best' rewards....especially at a faster rate than those actually doing the content. People got gear upgrades way too fast this summer with hunts. It's been fixed. Get use to it. Things are finally back to working 'as intended'

[Kaze3434]

There was no reason to make BOTH sets of new gear dependent on having a steady coil static. That's just telling everyone else who plays that they really don't give a crap about you.

please explain what you would/could possibly need gear of that lvl to use if not in the raid. making i130 obtainable from raid only is to help make doing said raid easier.

[Toranja]

Hunting is working just fine now.

[Blacksmith_Tony]

I think the biggest crime is that it costs almost the same, or in some cases MORE, for ilvl 70 hunt gear, as it does for ilvl 100 soldiery gear once you factor in the prices of allied seals. Going from ilvl 90 bodies for about 40 seals to ilvl 100 for 660 is somehow made worse when you realize they have GC ilvl 70 gear for close to the same price.

SE just can't balance their yoyo act of how to do post 50 content. Either too generous or too harsh, usually ping ponging between the two every major update. 2.0 / 2.2 / 2.4 make it very rough for the less hardcore players to really do anything, and funnels everyone into repeating the same content, then 2.1 / 2.3 / likely 2.5 eases up and makes it so Joe Blow and his pals can finally progress, while Super Jim and crew can gear up those alts in record time.

[Xatsh]

For people who do not like running dungeons everyday to cap tokens this is bad news. Honestly spamming boring faceroll dungeons is far worse then doing the hunts, even with the horrible way they were implemented. People did not stop doing dungeons because Hunts were better... it is was more the fact that most of endgame is sick of spamming easy mode/no reward dungeons for tokens.

They needed to be balanced, what this does is kill off the content for anyone at endgame.

Ok do it for allied seals that is fine. But allied seals are garbage for the most part outside of alexandrite and vanity. And content for pure vanity purposes is just not applicable for 75%+ of the community. Make it where 250 marks can be traded in for 25 poetics or something.