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    From reading skill descriptions (my ROG is 27, so I can't pretend to know anything about Ninja), my assumption is that NIN is going to be very very useful primarily because of Trick Attack. It looks to be a hugely powerful move, and we'll see what the application is long-term.

    As per NIN out-dpsing MNK in end-game... There are maybe 1 or 2 people that could tell you the viability of that, and they are probably passed out right now from playing for over 24 hours straight.

    Let's wait and see, but it will continue to be an interesting topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    From reading skill descriptions (my ROG is 27, so I can't pretend to know anything about Ninja), my assumption is that NIN is going to be very very useful primarily because of Trick Attack. It looks to be a hugely powerful move, and we'll see what the application is long-term.

    As per NIN out-dpsing MNK in end-game... There are maybe 1 or 2 people that could tell you the viability of that, and they are probably passed out right now from playing for over 24 hours straight.

    Let's wait and see, but it will continue to be an interesting topic.
    I'm going off of my beliefs in general, no offense to those grinding NIN but I'm not going to expect the players to be authorities on playing the class optimally at 50 when it's been out for a few days.

    However, I do believe multi-nin comps will be extreemely good with coordinated trick attacks, for farmed content 3/4 NIN could even be more of a standard considering goad is 400 TP with trait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aabe View Post
    However, I do believe multi-nin comps will be extreemely good with coordinated trick attacks, for farmed content 3/4 NIN could even be more of a standard considering goad is 400 TP with trait.
    I think you are dead on there and I will be interested to see if SE has a nerf for this. Think about WAR/NIN/NIN/NIN/NIN/NIN/WHM/SCH in T8... 83% uptime on Trick Attack plus the WAR using Storm's path. lolololololol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    I think you are dead on there and I will be interested to see if SE has a nerf for this. Think about WAR/NIN/NIN/NIN/NIN/NIN/WHM/SCH in T8... 83% uptime on Trick Attack plus the WAR using Storm's path. lolololololol
    I never thought about T8 and solo tank/solo heal compositions but now I'm really interested. I'm not in the mood to think of it in my head but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be 83% uptime unless Kassatsu was a thing, considering each nin still has to reapply huton every minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aabe View Post
    I never thought about T8 and solo tank/solo heal compositions but now I'm really interested. I'm not in the mood to think of it in my head but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be 83% uptime unless Kassatsu was a thing, considering each nin still has to reapply huton every minute.
    Isn't it a 10 second buff that can be used every minute? 10+10+10+10+10=50seconds 50seconds/60seconds = .83333 or 83.33%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    Isn't it a 10 second buff that can be used every minute? 10+10+10+10+10=50seconds 50seconds/60seconds = .83333 or 83.33%
    Yeah have fun coordinating that. You'll still have a lot but considering you need to suiton then do it you won't have 5 nin timing it perfectly in succession while handling mechanics.

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    if you use sneak attack = 500 potency ^^
    You should probably take that part out of your post. Something about the whole "if you use sneak attack in group content at 50 you're missing out on trick attack, since they're shared recast.
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    Last edited by Alistaire; 11-05-2014 at 05:02 AM.