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    DeliriumTrigger's Avatar
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    Chisana Himitsu
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    Minions are cheaper compared to WoW by about $5. The mounts are more or less the same. In the end, they are just vanity items.
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    SoulKhan's Avatar
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    Khan Noonien'singh
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    for these kids with their mommies credit cards cash shop is cool to them, There are many hard core pay to play gamer such as myself that do not want to see our game go to a cash shop, Here is why I quit the game I played for 5 years.
    They added 100's of housing items some that lasted 30 days and others that are permanent that cost more.
    mounts, pets.
    buffs, loot rate % buffs.
    permanent mounts, Mounts that last 30 days.
    Wings, halos, vanity items etc...
    100's of items became available via cash shop and it became stupid and so many like me looked for games that do not do this aka pay to play mmorpg's

    <items I am ok with in cs>
    fantasia/ server/ name change
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    Missing my little guy everyday, In memory of the biggest part of my heart and soul...

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    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    the people saying "its fine because its just vanity" are pure stupid.
    this game is highly influenced by vanity...a majority of my friends who dont raid are into vanity and this game has loads of vanity, housing is vanity. cool clothes and gear are vanity, different mount skins are vanity.
    vanity has a high place in not just this game but ALOT of games, MMOs especially...and when you lock vanity behind a paywall then you basically lock a huge part of a game for alot of people behind that very paywall.
    there is no way to justify a pay to play game having a cash shop, no way at all.
    you can try but you will fail.
    "just vanity " is a terrible reason.
    improving the overall quality of the game is a terrible reason (because if they cant improve the game with 15$/m + 1million+ subs then wtf are they doing?)
    please, stop acting like everything yoshi or SE does is a gift from garuda, our lord and saviour..because tbh its not.
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    beautifully said
    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    the people saying "its fine because its just vanity" are pure stupid.
    this game is highly influenced by vanity...a majority of my friends who dont raid are into vanity and this game has loads of vanity, housing is vanity. cool clothes and gear are vanity, different mount skins are vanity.
    vanity has a high place in not just this game but ALOT of games, MMOs especially...and when you lock vanity behind a paywall then you basically lock a huge part of a game for alot of people behind that very paywall.
    there is no way to justify a pay to play game having a cash shop, no way at all.
    you can try but you will fail.
    "just vanity " is a terrible reason.
    improving the overall quality of the game is a terrible reason (because if they cant improve the game with 15$/m + 1million+ subs then wtf are they doing?)
    please, stop acting like everything yoshi or SE does is a gift from garuda, our lord and saviour..because tbh its not.
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    Missing my little guy everyday, In memory of the biggest part of my heart and soul...

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    Odsarzol Que
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan View Post
    the people saying "its fine because its just vanity" are pure stupid.
    this game is highly influenced by vanity...
    You're right - you do Coil for Vanity.
    Primal Ex for Vanity.
    You also did most content prior to the glamor system being introduced for Vanity.

    (Not really.)

    there is no way to justify a pay to play game having a cash shop, no way at all.
    Worked for Blizzard for years, and everyone was saying how WoW is the "standard" and that XIV should be copying it.
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    Yshnal's Avatar
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    Nera Mistdancer
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You're right - you do Coil for Vanity.
    Primal Ex for Vanity.
    You also did most content prior to the glamor system being introduced for Vanity.

    (Not really.)
    Way to lose the point. As usual.

    Re-read everything that Leera wrote after what you selectively quoted.
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    StrejdaTom's Avatar
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    T'aretha Tyaka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Way to lose the point. As usual.

    Re-read everything that Leera wrote after what you selectively quoted.
    I believe that reacting to this troll is just a waste of time. Always uses only the part of truth which is profitable for him/her. Just ignore that person. )

    On topic: Cash shop is overpriced for me. I dont care how much items cost in other games. I paid for digital collectors and I would gladly do it again, because the amount of items for the price seemd OK to me. Maybe one day, when they do some discount day and sell Sleipnir for lower price, I will get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    I believe that reacting to this troll is just a waste of time. Always uses only the part of truth which is profitable for him/her. Just ignore that person. )

    On topic: Cash shop is overpriced for me. I dont care how much items cost in other games. I paid for digital collectors and I would gladly do it again, because the amount of items for the price seemd OK to me. Maybe one day, when they do some discount day and sell Sleipnir for lower price, I will get it.
    Personally attacking someone while calling them a "troll" seems a bit hypocritical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yshnal View Post
    Re-read everything that Leera wrote after what you selectively quoted.
    I did read it, there was no point made because there already is a paywall - The subscription fee. The only point in that post made was using the assumption you can't obtain any vanity items in-game, yet I just crafted up quite a bit - didn't cost a cent outside of my sub fee.
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    Player LeeraSorlan's Avatar
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    Leera Katz
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    if you truly read what i said (considering you quoted it) then i am referring to a cash shop in a pay to play game. sure a sub is a paywall...but its a paywall to play the game in its entirety.
    when items are taken and put into a cash shop to buy outside of that subscription fee is where the line meets its limits.
    its a paywall in a subscription based game, simple as that and it should not be there.
    i am sorry if you are perfectly accepting that you need to pay for items in a game that you already pay monthly for but quite alot of us are not so accepting.


    as it stands now there is little vanity or items in general in the cash shop but i do not expect it to stay this way.
    the basis of any type of thing like this is always to test the waters and gradually add stuff in.
    first vanity. then boosters. then gear.
    the more this is supported the worse it will become overall.
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You're right - you do Coil for Vanity.
    Primal Ex for Vanity.
    You also did most content prior to the glamor system being introduced for Vanity.

    (Not really.)
    Yes really.
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