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    chocomaid's Avatar
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    Temis Altera
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 50

    2.4 Crafting - Grim as predicted

    Well, as predicted, the requirements are higher than ever.

    To unlock (just to unlock) the 2.4 crafting gear for all the DoH:

    -You'll need to HQ 3 of the 3-star version of the 2.3 mats. (e.g.Intricate Silver Brocade)
    -The difficulty is 801 (pretty much double cashmere cloth despite both being 3 stars.)
    -You need 2 Field III for each item, you need 3 items so 6 Field III. 48 Field III to craft all the materials to unlock, ASSUMING you HQ every craft and not botch a single one. In my server that's 14 million odd gil just to unlock everything, assuming everything goes well. There are other mats costs too.
    -Artisan secondary weapons can be HQ'd, and with everyone's grim predictions, they can be melded.

    Crafting the actual artisan gear is another thing but that ain't no cakewalk either.

    I really didn't mind the 3 star requirements cause that was just a time grind, 4 stars though. I'm probably gonna still try to cap all these crafting classes, just giving people out there some of the things they're gonna see.
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    Well no probllem on the field III I got those regular from the artisans's glasses. The hq 3 star, guess we'll see haven't really done any of those so I geared my BSM fully/ Supra also, cp 380 with food, mainly because it makes most of the artisans off hand tools
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    Teirshin's Avatar
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    Cova Morningstar
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    Gilgamesh
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    This isnt any surprise to me.

    SE has pretty much tuned crafting (and lots of other content) to be suitable only for the richest players in the game.

    I've been an endgame crafter in every MMO I've played until this one..... SE really ruined crafting for me in FFXIV.

    I'll finish getting BSM and ARM to 50 since I'm almost there now, but once I do, I'm done with crafting in this game.... forever.
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    Fornix Amygdala
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    Odin
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I'm still far from there myself. However, personally I don't regard such requirements to unlock endgame crafting as a bad thing. It helps create a certain level of demand, and makes it a worthy investment to stick time into crafting. Rather than just having everybody being able to craft endgame produce at low cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fornix View Post
    I'm still far from there myself. However, personally I don't regard such requirements to unlock endgame crafting as a bad thing. It helps create a certain level of demand, and makes it a worthy investment to stick time into crafting. Rather than just having everybody being able to craft endgame produce at low cost.
    That argument might hold water if end game crafted items were comparable to end game raiding gear thats faster/easier/cheaper to get for the most part.

    SE said they want the best gear coming from raids, so nothing you craft will ever be comparable statwise to drops from dungeons, and no one will want it other than maybe for a glamour.
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    Alvis Yune
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    Adamantoise
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    That argument might hold water if end game crafted items were comparable to end game raiding gear thats faster/easier/cheaper to get for the most part.
    Well, for once it's actually not so bad.

    110 gear is craftable as of this patch; which even though Soldiery is uncapped, buying it straight up makes a big difference in not having to get Second Coil drops/Syrcus Tower drops and then farm the soldiery for every single piece. It's still not the best but for the moment crafting is actually in at least a half decent spot - or at least better than it has been previous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    That argument might hold water if end game crafted items were comparable to end game raiding gear thats faster/easier/cheaper to get for the most part.

    SE said they want the best gear coming from raids, so nothing you craft will ever be comparable statwise to drops from dungeons, and no one will want it other than maybe for a glamour.
    Not interested in crafting end game gear, I make money with it, lots of it. You'd be surprised at how much crafting you can do for alot of other items in the game. But that would take time and ambition and since things don't get handed too you its meh I ain't going to do that....
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    Elai Khatahdyn
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I craft (and gather) because I enjoy it, and I quite like being self-sufficient. Very very slowly working on upgrading my crafters and gatherers; only just got my artisans spectacles, and I'm slowly levelling my ALC to 50 for that final skill (think it's Comfort Zone). So I'm not stressing at all about 4 star reqs, my view is that it's a work in progress that will take me months, and I'll do it because it's fun and no other reason. Which is pretty much the reason I do anything in this game. If it's not fun - if I don't enjoy it ( yes, I'm looking at you, Titan) - then I'll steer clear
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    Tonbo Skywarp
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    Goblin
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    That argument might hold water if end game crafted items were comparable to end game raiding gear thats faster/easier/cheaper to get for the most part.

    SE said they want the best gear coming from raids, so nothing you craft will ever be comparable statwise to drops from dungeons, and no one will want it other than maybe for a glamour.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sartori View Post
    Not interested in crafting end game gear, I make money with it, lots of it. You'd be surprised at how much crafting you can do for alot of other items in the game. But that would take time and ambition and since things don't get handed too you its meh I ain't going to do that....
    Well said Satori.

    Any serious crafter has the gil (made from crafting) and time ready to set aside for the new recipes.
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    Pterois Volitans
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Teirshin View Post
    That argument might hold water if end game crafted items were comparable to end game raiding gear thats faster/easier/cheaper to get for the most part.

    SE said they want the best gear coming from raids, so nothing you craft will ever be comparable statwise to drops from dungeons, and no one will want it other than maybe for a glamour.
    this argument would make sense if the gear we crafted was not sellable... so no raiding is not the fastest. buying penta melded 4 star gear takes all of about half a second to hit buy. (dispite the amount of time it takes to make that kinda gil) and no im no elitest protecting endgame raiding... still havent cleared t5 lol.
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    "Try not. Do or do not. There is no try."

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