Please do NOT alter Dark Knight AF for female characters.

[Nestama]

Mostly.

It's actually more realistic, though, since his stance as a knight is really flimsy for defense (most of the attack animations literally have you move the shield aside, which isn't very smart) so he literally isn't blocking most of the hits. Maybe Dark Knights are just PLDs who realized they weren't even bothering with the shield 99% of the time to begin with.

Very true. Savage Blade has them do a spin, Rage of Halone has them holding the shield to their side (facing the ground, I think?) and Spirits Within has their back to their enemy. Don't even get me started on Shield Lob.

[Musashidon]

Don't even get me started on Shield Lob.

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[AlexSag]

I support this post

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I only use the High Allagan tank/drg set for glamour, because its one of the few that fits a female characters form showing off their femininity, while still being classy and looking good. Regular allagan, Noct (shudders), and dreadwyrm are just too clunky on females for my taste. PLD AF also did a good job of showing the differences between males and females, without being too bulky or too showy.

The i80 armor from hullbreaker/tam tam/stone vigil also did a good job with this, and I used that for awhile.

If they can make gear for both that doesn't need to be modified to show the differences in gender, I'm all for that. I think the reason they did it on DRG AF is because there isn't much to show "this char is male or female" in the way the armor was designed otherwise.

They went the complete opposite of that with the noct gear. Which looks bulky on males, and terrible on females....

[Samcaesar]

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IMHO, if they removes the metal abs (Which looks nearly as dumb as breast cups on armor) on the Noct set, it'd look perfect to me.

I don't get why folks seem so keen on armor looking "feminine". Like if you want your gear to look "feminine" glamour it into some cloth gear or the coliseum set or something.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

IMHO, if they removes the metal abs (Which looks nearly as dumb as breast cups on armor) on the Noct set, it'd look perfect to me.

I don't get why folks seem so keen on armor looking "feminine". Like if you want your gear to look "feminine" glamour it into some cloth gear or the coliseum set or something.

And I dont see why people want armor to look exactly the same on both genders. If you want to look like a male wearing armor on a female character, just make a male character. I shouldn't HAVE to wear the coliseum gear to make my char not luck like shes a man wearing armor.

[Shougun]

That right there is why the notion that the basic form of the gear is inherently male, it's implicit in the topic of the thread.

I don't think you understand OP then. The notion is that the armor is inherently armor, that both genders should be able to wear (small decorative touches maybe can have gender, but the base being protective surely not). To add realistically they would have to too which supports it as an ungendered choice and not a gendered one, custom measurements is a thing for great fitting armor (shoulder/stomach/proportions/sure slight chest changes) but the exaggerated caves and windows would not be a thing if it were to be functional.

That the post was made in apprehension of a past example and possible propensity to change armor, not to label it male armor (quite opposed to that in fact). That there is an armor that is suitable for females and they desire to wear it, and so they were concerned it would change just to further open up parts to their body - while the male version did not. The OP is not asking to wear a man's cup, but to wear gear that both genders could wear (and should, if referencing reality). This game is fantasy, but that doesn't change the fact that just because armor covers up the body and appears to be protective does not mean it is male armor unless you restrict your perspective to popular media - which would obviously produce a slew of gender bias (like this one where females are seen as unfit to wear the functional and logical choice of what is unfairly being called masculine).

Men don't and shouldn't but seem to own the rights to "armor that works", as a male if a female I knew and cared for was to fight I'd not put them in anything but armor (not 'male' armor, just armor). Also just for OP's sake (seems to be forgotten point they made at the bottom), OP doesn't want to have all sexy armor removed past or future but to have both genders get that chance from the same items - both functional and or sexy (as SE mostly does).

If the OP felt I inserted undesirable perspective to their view in anyway then feel free to correct me and I will edit my post. I tried to abstain some of my personal views in the post (like I think sexy clothes are awesome, huehue, but I personally don't like them to be on the battlefield - which for a great majority of games is an upmountain battle lol).

As an aside mentioned above, little decorative touches can be considered male or female like the patterns inlaid, colors, and accessories to the base of the armor - though this should be done with extreme care, calling "strong" a male trait can and is generally insulting (or inaccurate case by case). But if there was a desire for functional base soft eloquent influence they could certainly design a knight of the rose sort of thing (and more). Non-bulky, decorative finishes, bright - still functional still able to be worn by both genders.

[Samcaesar]

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Because it's armor, which is designed to protect you, not make you look like a guy or a girl. I shouldn't have to make a male character to have semi sensible armor. Like, seriously the rest of the AF gear for DRG looks fine, but if the added stomach hole makes the armor look like for a girl, I don't see why you'd have an issue with just slapping the coliseum set on for glamour. If I play a tank in a game I want to play a well armored character, boy or girl. Leave the silly sets with boob windows and lots of skin showing for glamours.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Because it's armor, which is designed to protect you, not make you look like a guy or a girl. I shouldn't have to make a male character to have semi sensible armor. Like, seriously the rest of the AF gear for DRG looks fine, but if the added stomach hole makes the armor look like for a girl, I don't see why you'd have an issue with just slapping the coliseum set on for glamour. If I play a tank in a game I want to play a well armored character, boy or girl. Leave the silly sets with boob windows and lots of skin showing for glamours.

If thats what you think I want, you obviously didn't actually read my post. Armor can be form fitting without showing skin. Aka High Allagan.

[Draciella]

Either i'm doing something wrong or folks are far too touchy but my experience as a tank is camera zoomed out as far as i can go and 96% rear view. So id appreciate more effort making the armour in general stand out.