Please do NOT alter Dark Knight AF for female characters.

[Alacran]

I feel that this is being glazed over by so many pulling the 'this is an MMO, female charterers will always have sexy armor' card is that this is not the bulk of what the OP wants. There are plenty of nice skimpy armor for you to put on and glamour for your characters. No one is saying 'no more sexy in my game at all'. What is being requested is that an iconic piece of gear, that is the primary representation of a specific job or class, is not drastically altered for the sexes, theme wise or look wise. This set is suppose to represent Dark Knights. It does not need to be glamed up or dolled out for any reason.

Having a piece of gear better form a character is welcome in my opinion is makes logical sense (hence why so many were upset about the Noct Loct armor on females, although in my opinion it only looked good on fem/male roes, highlanders, and some catboys.) But having a piece of gear fit a character better does not mean redesigning it to show skin (al la Dragoon belly AF style), or making it more sexy, or glamorous. That's why as a few have noticed there are slight differences in all the AF armor between the males and females but only the Dragoon one is complained about extensively.

A number of other games do this well where a female character is given armor and it is entirely warped by any means, it just fitted to their figure without changing the fact that it is well thought out functional armor.

Hilde and DA's armor is altered to fit them better and show that they are female without showing any skin and mainly focus on the fitting of the gear. Femshep could be a bit better but there's no boob window or skin slits so it gets a pass in my book lol

There is a time and a place for sexier gear, or gear that is more feminine between the male and female characters, but iconic tank gear(similar to the WAR and PLD sets) is not one of them. There will be plenty of other sexy gear released in the future, but I have faith they will leave this set's design alone and just properly fit it to both sexes unlike that scary Noct Loct.....man those abs were frightening. @__@

You my good Sir get it. A voice of reason in a storm of guys angry their barbie can't be a pole dancer in every new piece of gear to be introduced. Revealing gear is fine, bikini armor is ok, 50 shads of grey battle harness is allowed, The OP was only mentioning the DRK AF. The iconic look of the job that sets it apart from all the other tank gear witch will look the same on two other jobs in the same role.

[MirielleLavandre]

Back on topic (sorry for the little staff tangent), but sometimes SE errs on the side of men -- like this AF from FFXI. Real pirate-y scallawags would, I think, proudly thrust out their manly, hairy chests (sorry Tarutarus)... the lady version looks like what I think a piratey woman would wear -- the men, in that case, are the ones who are covered too much, imho. I don't see SE changing the DRK AF at all -- it seems in both FFXI and FF14, the tank classes are usually not hit by as much gender change (except the NIN tights in FFXI - which I thought looked better than the guy version anyway).

[Lumidus]

1 set of heavy armor and everyone assumes it will be like that one set? All the other Heavy armor types are not as open. I personally love the look of High allagan tank coat

[Strika23]

I think FFXIV has done a great job in comparison with other MMO's on the market that depict female characters with way too much skin showing. I personally loved the midriff showing on the DRG AF armor but I can see the issue with doing that. I think there should be a preference and a way to toggle it on or off much like the /visor emote with certain headgears. Also it is important to note that male characters have a lot of skin showing in certain gear too (Immortal flames robe, Coliseum gear, WOD monk/ninja gear etc.) so its been pretty fair between the genders for the most part IMO.

[Niwashi]

1 set of heavy armor and everyone assumes it will be like that one set? All the other Heavy armor types are not as open.

I think more feared than assumed. If we wait until after it's in-game and we see the final version on everyone, and only then find out whether SE did something that detracts from the "Dark Knight" image, it would be too late by that point. I believe the OP was trying to head off potential problems in that regard by pointing it out while there's still time for the devs to see the concern and make sure the set that's released doesn't have any such issues. Perhaps it wouldn't have been an issue in any case, but by the time we know that, it would be too late for concerns over it to affect the design.

Keep in mind that the thread was started last October, when there would certainly have been plenty of time to resolve or avoid such problems. By now I'm not so sure that's still the case. But players will continue to discuss their concerns with each other until we know for sure (and then far longer if those concerns turn out to be warranted, but hopefully they won't be).

[Mahri]

No one is saying 'no more sexy in my game at all'. What is being requested is that an iconic piece of gear, that is the primary representation of a specific job or class, is not drastically altered for the sexes, theme wise or look wise. This set is suppose to represent Dark Knights. It does not need to be glamed up or dolled out for any reason.

Thank you for actually understanding my point. Like, seriously. All of it.

...though for the record, I kinda like the Noct gear for how hilariously overwrought it is. For the maximum impact, glamour the Replica Mistbeard Mask as the helmet (as it was originally designed to be, according to the art book)

If you are embarrassed, offended, or otherwise feel that this is inappropriate: Please, please never go to an art museum with ancient Greek sculptures. There are penises on some of them, oh my god

For the record: I might use skimpier armor myself if miqo'te had a damn muscle tone slider.

[Felis]

I think more feared than assumed. If we wait until after it's in-game and we see the final version on everyone, and only then find out whether SE did something that detracts from the "Dark Knight" image, it would be too late by that point.

I wounder where the fear is coming. DRK AF will be tank gear, not DPS gear like DRG AF. Show one female version of Tank gear that show a lot more skin than the male version.

[FallenArisen0990]

Idk why people are assuming the tank gear will be heavily altered. It never has and probably never will be. Idk what to say about the WHM staff since that one was completely random. You know what? I want a skirt for the DRK gear.

It's 2015 people, either move up with the times or go do something else.

[Coltvoyance]

The double standard exists in real life, but the opposite. Females can wear male clothing, and female clothing, but if men go into, say, Victoria's secret and start trying on stuff, they would be thrown out.

Just let this crap go away, its annoying and pointless and won't make a big impact either way.

Indeed. Lets not pretend the Japanese Devs give two Fungah Farts about our non-japanese female sentiments. This thread wont change anything. We aren't their primary audience.

[AlexanderThorolund]

I still want to see a male Astro, i hope they look cool, i didn't like the Scholar male stuff.