Please do NOT alter Dark Knight AF for female characters.

[Esper]

See, I wouldn't mind them doing this on a handful of sideline armor sets just to see how people set up their glamours.

Hell, look at the female swimsuits vs. male swimsuits. Questionably-supportive bikinis vs. straight-up fetish wear.

honestly I loved how they handled the bikini situation xD it was like, "oh you want the girls to dress less? here! they would like you to as well, now bow to your miqo'te mistress'!"

[Anarnee]

Yes, please. D; I do not appreciate that as a DRG my belly has to be shown off and I am sure I won't like it as DRK either if it happens.

[Ilitsa]

See, I stand by my opinions on exposed skin...but I'll agree that putting girls in buff chiseled dudeplate looks precisely as silly as giving guys armor with built-in breasts. If you're gonna have that look you might as well go the whole way on both genders. That soldiery gear wouldn't be nearly as jarring if the breastplate were a smooth conventional one.

Agreed, I was so dissapointed with it (and the warrior of light armor from Labyrinth), it saddens me lol.

[EdwinLi]

Why? You don't want to look like this?

[File2ish]

See, I stand by my opinions on exposed skin...but I'll agree that putting girls in buff chiseled dudeplate looks precisely as silly as giving guys armor with built-in breasts. If you're gonna have that look you might as well go the whole way on both genders. That soldiery gear wouldn't be nearly as jarring if the breastplate were a smooth conventional one.

I agree with your original post (it's not clear to me if we have some sort of disagreement somewhere). If there is some disagreement from my previous comments, I want to make it clear I've been only talking about non-vanity armor. Sexy lady and beefcake man outfits have their place, but armor should be armor (especially for tank gear) and shouldn't have some strange cutting out of a piece of gear for females just to show some skin.

[Esper]

with dark knight we could probably look at Livia Sas Junius as a rough draft of how they would like to handle the AF at the very least, if not heavy gear all together for females. You can tell she's a women, it's plated but tight, and shows her figure, unlike Gaius or Nero whom are a bit more plated. This was and still is more or less by design to still show some sex appeal w/o showing the skin. On a side note, she was also a very empowered bad girl character, and I look forward to more like her in this game. (Cloud of Darkness incoming )

[TeaTimeBear]

I do have to wonder though.. tank gear is usually not as exposed/exposed at all as mentioned above so why would they change that now? Even the Bravely Default one was completely covered.

[Mahri]

I agree with your original post (it's not clear to me if we have some sort of disagreement somewhere). If there is some disagreement from my previous comments, I want to make it clear I've been only talking about non-vanity armor.

Oh, I don't think we really disagree, looking your posts over. At least not much.

For those that DO disagree with my point: If they ended up cutting pieces of the Dark Knight armor off to make it sexier there's still a slim chance it'd look fine in it's own right, just less, y'know, Dark Knight.

By the same token, if the gun class ends up being Corsair or something similarly pirate-themed, it would seem like a missed opportunity not to have at least a partially bared chest for guys and some kind of gratuitous corset/bodice for girls, in the vein of the DoW shirt gear you get while leveling.

Honestly I'm largely impressed by what the art team for this game manages to put out and every piece of feedback I have comes out of good faith.

with dark knight we could probably look at Livia Sas Junius as a rough draft of how they would like to handle the AF at the very least, if not heavy gear all together for females. <snip>

See, I thought about that 'bad girl' angle, and how if you look at comics you'd see all kinds of belief-straining half naked examples even in villainous warrior types. But Livia's design kinda nails it in that you need not bare anything and still have a feminine look.

See what I mean about this game's artists?

[Ladon]

I do have to wonder though.. tank gear is usually not as exposed/exposed at all as mentioned above so why would they change that now? Even the Bravely Default one was completely covered.

Because completely covered characters would all look the exact same. People tend to want to see their character in the gear in MMOs and not just be a walking gear model.

[TeaTimeBear]

Because completely covered characters would all look the exact same. People tend to want to see their character in the gear in MMOs and not just be a walking gear model.

The tanks are all covered now outside of the head piece and all look the same though..? And I never said that this is how it would look I was just using that as an example.