Is it possible that Ninja will do more dps than Monk?

[Parodine]

Their ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% will make them highly desirable, regardless.

[Pylfer]

Their ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% will make them highly desirable, regardless.

This. Everything this. If NIN are not as high DPS as MNK, they will be highly sought after for their +10% damage buff as it happens every 60 seconds. They will be able to benefit from all of their high damage abilities and keep the MNKs TP up through the use of Goad. Depending on how strong Goad is, they may even replace BRD in some instances... cause while Foes is great for casters, Trick Attack is AMAZEBALLS for literally everyone in the party (tanks, heals, and DPS).

[Kripp]

Their ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% will make them highly desirable, regardless.

Having the ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% wont that make them so desirable that it will make people want to have a ninja in a static rather than a dragoon? So it seems like dragoons may be thrown to the side and not needed.

[zar]

Having the ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% wont that make them so desirable that it will make people want to have a ninja in a static rather than a dragoon? So it seems like dragoons may be thrown to the side and not needed.

Their damage could be crap and the 10% buff makes up for it.

[Pylfer]

Having the ability to increase party damage on the mob by 10% wont that make them so desirable that it will make people want to have a ninja in a static rather than a dragoon? So it seems like dragoons may be thrown to the side and not needed.

Depends on the damage they deal. If it's laughable (and they turn in more a support class relying on TA and Goad and what not) then there may still be reason to take a DRG for the consistent spike damage. However, if they can maintain 350+ DPS average in fights like T8 may give them an edge because even though there is a loss of about 50-100 DPS AVG from dropping the DRG, you'll make that up with the other DPS, yourself, the tanks, and the healers when they DPS for that brief period, more than enough damage to compensate for it.

[Kamifubuki-Yoakesetsuri]

Depends on the damage they deal. If it's laughable (and they turn in more a support class relying on TA and Goad and what not) then there may still be reason to take a DRG for the consistent spike damage. However, if they can maintain 350+ DPS average in fights like T8 may give them an edge because even though there is a loss of about 50-100 DPS AVG from dropping the DRG, you'll make that up with the other DPS, yourself, the tanks, and the healers when they DPS for that brief period, more than enough damage to compensate for it.

350 dps in T8 is laughable i'm doing 393-423 dps as a DRG in T8

[Pylfer]

350 dps in T8 is laughable i'm doing 393-423 dps as a DRG in T8

I was referring to the NIN maintaining 350DPS+ in the fight. 350, coupled with the +10% damage that everyone gets, coupled with the fact that it happens every 60 seconds may or may not out weigh the amount of damage that DRG (or MNK even) may be able to bring :/

[Lufir]

I was referring to the NIN maintaining 350DPS+ in the fight. 350, coupled with the +10% damage that everyone gets, coupled with the fact that it happens every 60 seconds may or may not out weigh the amount of damage that DRG (or MNK even) may be able to bring :/

In most raids, Ninjas will only be able to Trick Attack once, at the start of battle. So, they won't be able to consistently reapply the +10 damage buff. Trick Attack requires Hide and Hide is only usable outside of combat. Therefore, NIN won't be as desired in raids for that simple fact.

[Pylfer]

In most raids, Ninjas will only be able to Trick Attack once, at the start of battle. So, they won't be able to consistently reapply the +10 damage buff. Trick Attack requires Hide and Hide is only usable outside of combat. Therefore, NIN won't be as desired in raids for that simple fact.

=_= Suiton let's them use Sneak Attack, or Trick Attack without Hide.

[zar]

In most raids, Ninjas will only be able to Trick Attack once, at the start of battle. So, they won't be able to consistently reapply the +10 damage buff. Trick Attack requires Hide and Hide is only usable outside of combat. Therefore, NIN won't be as desired in raids for that simple fact.

Suiton lets you to SATA without Hide.