What if...

[Draucant]

If it were to happen, I think songs would fundamentally work differently. For example, you could only play two songs a minute, but it lasts say 30 secs. Maybe you no longer have the -25% DMG reduction but different songs consume different amounts of MP.

As for different songs besides the TP/MP song they could have skill/spell speed % like the NIN one, DEF/M.DEF+, maybe even add single target songs that increase STR/VIT/INT/etc.

[Cynric]

No let's make it into a rhythm game !

[Lillia]

If it were to happen, I think songs would fundamentally work differently. For example, you could only play two songs a minute, but it lasts say 30 secs. Maybe you no longer have the -25% DMG reduction but different songs consume different amounts of MP.

As for different songs besides the TP/MP song they could have skill/spell speed % like the NIN one, DEF/M.DEF+, maybe even add single target songs that increase STR/VIT/INT/etc.

I think that is too OP and feel it'd make bard required for any content but who am I to say no. I personally do like bard and I feel that makes me biased.

I feel like it we didn't have -25% dmg then we'd just over the top have infinite TP with DPS out the butt making us a lot better than other DPS no offense. Maybe we can't pull all the DMG a drg or mnk can but they run out of TP even with invigorate. I also feel like bard supports every single role with one song going to each role so... we're basically the perfect support for a price.

That's what I meant by we don't need it, it's just some changes that are wanted by some.

I get bard isn't the same bard as it was in past games but I also like changes, I don't mind not being the same bard that we had over and over and over (with some different songs) who just sings and sits there with no real power other than their voice/instruments. :/

In the long run, I do believe we will get some more songs when the time is right. But right now I don't feel like it's actually needed when I am on bard because I can actually support and help my groups just find even with 25% dmg reduce.

And yes bard is someone who uses their voice/instruments but that doesn't mean it has to be all a bard is.

I know people will disagree with me, that's fine. I am not up for a fight about whose opinion is better or should be heard over the other but this is what I think on the matter.

[saber_alter]

I think that is too OP and feel it'd make bard required for any content but who am I to say no.

its not as if bard is pretty much a staple class for raiding already >.>

[Lillia]

its not as if bard is pretty much a staple class for raiding already >.>

It's nice, but not needed. if it was then players wouldn't of gotten past T6-7 and other turns without bard. Granted T8 is questionable but I think it's really underestimated on what can and can't be done in this game.

Edit: And I raided before to T9. ^-^ no need to explain how hard stuff is without bard.

[kyuven]

That and... Do we actually need it?

Haste, HP regen, accuracy, defense, elemental resistances... There's a lot of potential to make bard a class that actually uses songs.

Pretty much this. While HP regen might not be a great idea since it would either be too powerful or too weak, there are a lot of "holes" in what bard classes in other games can do that the bard job in this game can't.
Haste, resistances, accuracy and a physical damage debuff immediately spring to mind. The Mudra mechanic can easily be tweaked and adopted for the Bard job for at least adding some elemental resist songs.
But then again even for being a "boring" class, Bard is pretty powerful and valuable simply due to their mobility, so this would probably be something for 3.0.

[Vinta]

Makes me think of the Monster Hunter weapon Hunting Horn. I approve intensely. Each note can be an attack, not just a note.

[kyuven]

No let's make it into a rhythm game !

Mudras basically are if you look at the mechanics, and the way bard currently works gives it this feel too, since your main focus in combat atm is to "keep DoT's up, spam heavy shot, hit Bloodletter whenever it comes up." If it weren't completely RNG, it would definitely feel like a rhythm game lol.

[Lillia]

Pretty much this. While HP regen might not be a great idea since it would either be too powerful or too weak, there are a lot of "holes" in what bard classes in other games can do that the bard job in this game can't.
Haste, resistances, accuracy and a physical damage debuff immediately spring to mind. The Mudra mechanic can easily be tweaked and adopted for the Bard job for at least adding some elemental resist songs.
But then again even for being a "boring" class, Bard is pretty powerful and valuable simply due to their mobility, so this would probably be something for 3.0.

that'd be great if we actually needed the elemental resistance for any content. :/

Edit: and anyone who doesn't have the acc, probably shouldn't be doing that particular content.... can you imagine how sucky that'd be? "Sorry out of MP!" *Acc goes down under content requirement* "Lillia Hope missed Heavy Shot" 5x

Haste is.... a nice thought, won't lie but... I don't see it required, once again. >.< We can finish content without that thus far, so it's sorta proven as a luxury. (Theres a lot of phys dmg debuff going around with a war/nin now.) @-@

[Squa11_Leonhart]

If that were the case, I would probably play it instead of thinking it's the most bland and boring class we have.

:3 if you think that, you don't know how to play the class.