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    Bigcat9715's Avatar
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    Nebulon Gumball
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    Should Archer new Job be healing though Singing?

    Lets calls the Job "Vocalise," (because all of the other titles I had were for girls.)

    So, I made a Thread yesterday talking about making Arcanist into Tank and I joked about Archer healing with song then it hit me "that makes sense!" Think about it Archer cross with conjurer, what do you get? What I came up with was vocalise. Basically a singing base healer that can also buff, but the job base heals in the class are regen. Basically a HoT healing class that focus on using MP and TP to get its heals out. And gear would be Mind Focus with Accuracy.

    What do you guys think? Yay or Nay
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    Last edited by Bigcat9715; 10-28-2014 at 03:53 AM.

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    Odsarzol Que
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    Balmung
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    Honestly, as long as we have barcher, they could just add a regen song or two rather than further moving away from archer/ranger xD. I know in the game Trusty Bell Viola had Healing arrows and such, which could work if they stuck with Tanaka's design..but alas.
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    No, Archer's new job MUST be full damage dealer; Ranger/Hunter, with limit breaks that can do damage.
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    No, Archer's new job MUST be full damage dealer; Ranger/Hunter, with limit breaks that can do damage.
    I would love to see this. I don't think a healing role is needed more than what Mage Ballad does for healers at the moment.
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    Austen Bloodspatter
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    Omega
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    No, Archer's new job MUST be full damage dealer; Ranger/Hunter, with limit breaks that can do damage.
    not unless they revamp BRD into something else than DD. i'm quite sure there's not going to be more than 1 job/role, branching from any given class.
    so if they plan to add ranger or whatever, they must first turn BRD into a healer/support; give the attack skills to Ranger, and expand BRD songs.

    i don't know why ppl complain about BRD not being focused on damage....they have great burst damage. the only time they loose damage, is if they do TP/MP songs, which they don't very frequently, except for progression, or T8.
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    Last edited by Radacci; 10-28-2014 at 01:23 AM.

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    Ryujin Uzikin
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 50
    I wouldn't mind having a regen song. It sort of completes the set of TP/MP/HP.

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    Sky Lyxn
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    I would just settle for bards who actually use their songs.
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    Kiranoa Eclipse
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preinfalk View Post
    I would just settle for bards who actually use their songs.
    Well, write to SE and ask them to redo bards the proper way please as is, our songs do more bad than good...

    since 2 of 3 of them take damage away from us, 1 of them is ok but since we never see what the numbers are for the blm if there even is a blm in the group... /shrug on that

    run song is a joke and turns off, when switching zones, combat, and anything that would make the run song seem appropriately needed.

    I wont lie, but FF14 has one of the worse incarnations of bard I have ever seen, and its the go to job/class whatever I prefer in any mmo that offers it.
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    Lillia Hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by PureEclipse View Post
    Well, write to SE and ask them to redo bards the proper way please as is, our songs do more bad than good...

    since 2 of 3 of them take damage away from us, 1 of them is ok but since we never see what the numbers are for the blm if there even is a blm in the group... /shrug on that

    run song is a joke and turns off, when switching zones, combat, and anything that would make the run song seem appropriately needed.

    I wont lie, but FF14 has one of the worse incarnations of bard I have ever seen, and its the go to job/class whatever I prefer in any mmo that offers it.
    I like bard, just my opinion. I know some players don't mind the thought of sitting there running songs over and over till their mp is dry but I like being utility and that's the key word to this version of bard, Utility DPS.

    I don't really like the idea of sitting there and singing with nothing else to do till my song is needed again and honestly I'd think infinite running song so mp/tp is never dry is too op for most contents we got right now so we'd always be limited to either 1 song at a time on timer for like 15-30s or MP running dry and no song mojo business while we got nothing else to do.

    What I want is the ability to see TP of melee DPS so I can tell when to sing TP songs for DPS.

    In the end though, I respect the opinion of the community that actually use the forums and SE's decisions.
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    Last edited by Lillia; 10-28-2014 at 06:05 AM.

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    Florence Leduc
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 90
    i'm kinda sure yoshida did said that they don't plan to add another jobs to the current class, but well *shrugs*
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