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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagittarian View Post
    Hide cannot be executed in combat.
    So you wouldn't want to put Sneak Attack into a normal combat rotation anyway since it receives a major boost from Hide.
    Suiton gives you hide in combat.
    Rogues can't stealth in combat, ninjas can
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Suiton gives you hide in combat.
    Rogues can't stealth in combat, ninjas can
    The more you know. ! (I'm just learning all the skills they will get so I'm sorta derp-mode atm.)

    Thanks for all the info everyone. ;-;
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillia View Post
    The more you know. ! (I'm just learning all the skills they will get so I'm sorta derp-mode atm.)

    Thanks for all the info everyone. ;-;
    You know just SLIGHTLY less than we do, since all most people have to go on are vague demo videos and the ability list in the patch notes until tonight/tomorrow
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Suiton gives you hide in combat.
    Rogues can't stealth in combat, ninjas can
    Suiton:
    Delivers water damage with a potency of 180.
    Additional Effect: Grants the caster Suiton Duration: 10s

    I wondered about that effect in the patch notes. Is it more obvious in Japanese?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagittarian View Post
    Suiton:
    Delivers water damage with a potency of 180.
    Additional Effect: Grants the caster Suiton Duration: 10s

    I wondered about that effect in the patch notes. Is it more obvious in Japanese?
    "Suiton" just means "Water Element", but conjecture based on videos and such has indicated that it grants something akin to hide in combat. Which makes sense, otherwise Trick Attack and Sneak Attack would be completely useless in raids (since they're very likely able to see through hide and no DPS in their right mind would try to open a fight that way), and the "wind-up" required to pull it off is long enough to justify being able to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuven View Post
    Suiton gives you hide in combat.
    Rogues can't stealth in combat, ninjas can
    Where is the link where it specifies this skill does this?

    In this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppn5aGLfxSk

    They use suiton, and it is just a water attack.
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    Last edited by Meier; 10-28-2014 at 09:56 AM.