Is this game too easy?

[Edli]

Dark souls was a joke

Well what can I say. I guess you're just a special snowflake and not the norm. I said a fight is hard when the vast majority has difficulties with it. Now if I ask my brother which doesn't really play games he may find even sastasha hard and for some other guy T9 may actually be easy. When the question is however, is this fight hard in general you have to take into consideration the whole playerbase and the rate of successful attempts.

You said scripted fights can't be hard and that is false. The fact that the majority cannot beat X scripted fight proves you wrong. Hard fight only means the playerbase finds it difficult to beat, whether is scripted or not is irrelevant.

What you actually have a problem with is the kind of difficulty on these fights and that's a whole other discussion. I've played games with scripted fights that are easy and scripted fights that are hard in the same way that I played games with non-scripted fights that are hard and non-scripted fights that are easy.

[Hyrist]

Balmung has the advantage of a fairly dedicated and open community with lots of competent and patient people in it. Finding people within party Finder to Learn a fight in that server is not as trying an affair as on one of the less populated servers. Many people will give it multiple gos before getting it down and even when the party does not succeed, clear progress from all players does seem to be made. This is a credit to the server's community and not conducive to a classic example of what happens in the wider game.

Using Duty Finder directly is a shot in the dark and can lead to great frustration. Other servers are less populated and therefore do not always generate the appropriate learning parties to help catch people up.

The game's difficulty is as much dependent on its community than it is the fights themselves, which are very technical, but simple once memorized. The difficulty lies in reliable execution which is not universally achievable by every or even your average player.

A fight that must be practiced repetitively to get down, is not easy, and Coil and some Primals are strong examples of fights that require practice to get down.

Now, I am in support of some more randomized fights, but if so, there has to be a significant lowering of the Instant-Kill conditions within said fight. That said, I thoroughly enjoyed Stone Vigil Hard's last boss fight and would love to see more of that, with upped complexity and difficulty.

[Fyrebrand]

Difficulty level can be very subjective. There are a lot of factors that go into it. How well geared are you? How well do you know the fight / how much practice do you have? How long have you been playing MMOs / FFXIV / games in general? What is your character's role in this content? How would your team mates answer these questions? How is the group communicating?

It's not fair or objective to look at content you've been farming over and over, and say it's "easy." It may be easy for you right now, but the devs shouldn't be gearing their difficulty based on how it will play several months after release for someone who's already beaten it 30+ times. Titan was not "easy" the first time you went in there for your story quest.

Not long ago, I got Sunken Temple of Qarn for dungeon roulette. Both DPS were a couple of newbies who had immense difficulty, especially on the boss who casts Doom where you have to step on the glowing tiles to dispel it. After explaining to them what they were supposed to do, they still struggled and we had a few wipes. Even on what ended up being our successful attempt, both DPS died and it was up to just me and the tank to finish off the boss. One of the DPS commented something like "You guys are amazing, I don't know how you can be so good at this." I just told him the honest truth: "No, we have practice."

[Ketsuyame]

. Personally I think the game is a little too easy for me (i would put myself inbetween hardcore and casual) (can't say anything about coil cause I have never tried it.)

That right there is when I stopped reading. OP needs to get the general picture of the game's difficulty in its entirety, not just someone such as yourself who picked and chose which content he/she did or didn't do. Thats like telling someone math is easy but you've only done pre-algebra. And you guys can call the fights scripted all you want in coil. If you don't meet the DPS checks (Turn 8 & Turn 9!!!) You won't need to worry about scripted mechanics because you'll wipe before you ever see them.

To OP, the game is fair. It has it's moments. Coil, no matter how scripted is the most difficult content in the game. It will test you and your party. Period. It's very rewarding once you understand and complete the fights.

[Renik]

You said scripted fights can't be hard and that is false. The fact that the majority cannot beat X scripted fight proves you wrong. Hard fight only means the playerbase finds it difficult to beat, whether is scripted or not is irrelevant.

I can't say anything about the rest of thew post without starting an endless discussion, but about this... You can just ask in game, most people is not finding these fight difficult, the majority is just ignoring them, because, they hear it's hard and they don't even try, or they know how annoying can be to find a good party to learn these contents at a late time.

The fact that this content has to be learned makes give a false feeling of difficulty and excludes some players, it doesn't matter if it is good or bad for you or me, it's just bad for a game that by its actual producer had as goal allowing casual, hardcore, and new players to play together.

[Judge_Xero]

@Aerolol - those are the random elements I was thinking of. It just so happens they will wipe the party as well lol.

@Kiara1
While the most difficult content is only a small portion of the overall game, it still doesn't make "the game too easy".

Strumming the strings on a guitar doesn't make it easy to play.

[Edli]

You can just ask in game, most people is not finding these fight difficult, the majority is just ignoring them

I don't have to ask in game. I've seen it first hand for a whole year. I've been on countless parties in df or pf. I know very well how difficult these fights are for the average player, or even for me. Trying to beat Garuda extreme, as a tank for the first time has been one of the most nerve-racking experiences I had in a game and I've played all kind of games since ages ago. And I enjoyed it.

[Kallera]

I find the player base more challenging than the content.

This, the game is a fair difficulty, though I would say the difficulty curve gets steepened when you factor in a certain lack of community.

[dvoraen]

To answer the question in the topic: No...if you do the Second Coil.

What's my evidence? The number of party finder groups claiming Turn 7 (and/or 9) kills that can't make it to the final phase. I'm not kidding when I say in just this past week, I joined no less than five (5!) different Turn 7 "kill" groups and only one ever made it to Prosector's appearance out of all of their attempts. None of these groups were successful.

Paying attention to what's going on is too hard for some people.

[Renik]

I don't have to ask in game. I've seen it first hand for a whole year. I've been on countless parties in df or pf. I know very well how difficult these fights are for the average player, or even for me. Trying to beat Garuda extreme, as a tank for the first time has been one of the most nerve-racking experiences I had in a game and I've played all kind of games since ages ago. And I enjoyed it.

And what after you finally cleared it? difficult content remains difficult forever or until you're very overgeared to clear it by brute force. Seems like we differ a lot on this matter, all i can say is i can't consider something difficult, interesting or even good for the community, when you can just farm it after the first perfect clear.