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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    Personally I think the game is a little too easy for me (i would put myself inbetween hardcore and casual) (can't say anything about coil cause I have never tried it)
    This mindset boggles me. I guess it is due to availability of getting 8 other players to attempt Endgame?

    I could understand someone saying that the easy content is easy for them, and they wish they could try the difficult endgame material, but to say that the entire game is easy...

    Anyways, rant over.
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    While a lot of the content does depend on finding 8 other competent players, there was a slight shift from First Coil to Second Coil.

    Second Coil had some random elements that tested a team/players ability to adapt, that weren't really present in First Coil. This made Second Coil much more difficult for players compared to First Coil. I'm sure Final Coil will extend on that with even more difficult mechanics.

    Join a Ramuh EX party and you will find out how many people are able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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    I would say the game is easy in the sense of accessibility to content, learning your party role and gearing up effectively. (Don't equip STR gear on Bard etc)

    There is easy content for casual players, and for just levelling up and learning your class/job role or just learning the game in general.

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    Do I think the game is "too easy"? No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    While a lot of the content does depend on finding 8 other competent players, there was a slight shift from First Coil to Second Coil.

    Second Coil had some random elements that tested a team/players ability to adapt, that weren't really present in First Coil. This made Second Coil much more difficult for players compared to First Coil. I'm sure Final Coil will extend on that with even more difficult mechanics.
    I agree there was a shift from 1st to 2nd coil, but the most significant shift in my opinion is not the small random elements.


    It's the fact that if one person doesnt know what they are doing, they will kill fellow party members causing a wipe, even if other 7 people know what they are doing.
    Be it having people getting eaten by Rafflesia on T6 because you didn't bait it properly, by petrifying people on T7 because you forgot to turn around or hide behind the Renauds, or by staying (or not staying when needed) in the missiles AoE in t8, and many many things on t9 that I won't even bother listing xD

    In t1-t4 if you screw up, you will probably die, but other people don't die instantly due to your mistake.
    Of course it will make it harder for tanks and healers and they may get killed INDIRECTLY due to someone's mistakes, but you can't have a DPS make the entire group wipe due to one single mistake on t1-t4.
    On 2nd coil it happens all the time if there is one person who doesn't know what they are doing.

    Same thing applies to Ramuh ex.

    I wonder how punishing 3rd coil and Shiva EX will be...
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    Last edited by aerolol; 10-28-2014 at 06:53 AM.

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    @Aerolol - those are the random elements I was thinking of. It just so happens they will wipe the party as well lol.

    @Kiara1
    While the most difficult content is only a small portion of the overall game, it still doesn't make "the game too easy".

    Strumming the strings on a guitar doesn't make it easy to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    This mindset boggles me. I guess it is due to availability of getting 8 other players to attempt Endgame?

    I could understand someone saying that the easy content is easy for them, and they wish they could try the difficult endgame material, but to say that the entire game is easy...
    Well correct me if im wrong but the current endgame is 4 bosses, which isn't a lot compared to all the dungeons and primals and all the other stuff we have in the game. So it's a small part of the entire game. So overall I think the game is too easy and like I said I can't say anything about coil, but I feel like 4 raids isn't enough hard content to say that the game is hard.

    And yes I'd like to try coil but my work schedule stops me from planning ahead. And I'd rather do it with 7 ppl that I feel comfy playing with than 7 random people through party finder. I have had really bad experiences in party finder where I have had raging people in practice groups, so I try to avoid it.
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