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  1. #21
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    Elim's Avatar
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Faerie
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Yes the game is too easy, but no matter how easy something is someone will always complain about it being "hard". IMO a lot of people want a "instant win" button.

    After my group clears something once(and yeah we wipe a bunch of times while learning like everyone else), it's pretty much one shots every time after that unless someones client crashes or whatever. There's very little RNG involved in the current battle content which makes it easy to repeat without any issues. Final coil might not be the same, but I doubt that.
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  2. #22
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    Ukaei Ukaei
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 52
    Far from it...

    there is a reason why they dedicate patches for moderate difficulty.
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    PS3 limitations

  3. #23
    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Baron Eduardo
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Even if you are somewhat overgeared, you will have a rough time in Garuda Extreme or Titan Extreme while you are still not familiar with the fight.

    They were reaaaaallly hard back when max item level was 90 and there was no Echo.

    There still are hundreds if not thousands of people on full level 110 gear that wipe to titan with +25% Echo (meaning you already wiped at least 5 times before that), so if there are so many players that struggle so much, it can't be considered "easy content", even though it is kinda easy after you (and everyone else in the group) learn the fight and don't screw up on mechanics.

    Coil is also hard, as people already mentioned.
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  4. #24
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    I think this game is hard to the majority of people. After 5 tries at Titan EX through duty finder you will see that most people are really bad at learning mechanics. Some won't learn and makes the same mistake again and again.

    Personally I think the game is a little too easy for me (i would put myself inbetween hardcore and casual) (can't say anything about coil cause I have never tried it, would probably like to if I could find some people who would want to learn the fights as well.)

    I'm so happy for frontlines though, where I get to fight real people and don't have to learn a scripted fight. Fighting other people one on one is the hardest and most fun in this game to me.

    I would love some hard 4 man content. Like EX dungeons
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  5. #25
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    NyarukoW's Avatar
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    Ai Hana
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    There are plenty of learning parties where newbies can practice. ...
    This is completely false. The fact that 1 exists every now and then is plenty?

    It is so hard to get a learning a learning party filled. I saw my friends put up a PF for T7 the other day. The one expired waiting for a tank. They put it up again. Another 45 minutes in, still no tank.

    I don't main a tank, and I've only cleared T7 using my main. But I decide to join them with my PLD so at least everyone gets to learn. After I joined I asked if there was anyone with an alt class that is a better tank? That was met with silence. I told them the more experienced tank should do OT and take on adds. That was ignored and no one said a word. But after the 5th wipe, the one time I had voice when the adds showed, and the monk got aggro on the add dies next to healer and healer ended up with the add leading to the wipe. And one them supposed "experience player" decides to take it out on me and wanting to vote kick. Obviously the vote kick failed, but then the verbal abuse started up. Yep some learning party. The experienced players in general don't want to put up with other people learning, and they don't really want to help with learning parties either which adds dramatically to the difficulty for everyone else.

    In contrast what do I see most of the time. T5 farm, Levi EX no myth bonus, Ramuh EX must have multiple clears... etc. etc. Only hunt parties are more common than those, and the ever present T6-9 will sell for 60 mil party on the PF.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 10-28-2014 at 06:17 AM.

  6. #26
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    SoulKhan's Avatar
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    Khan Noonien'singh
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    spending an entire year to look for coil statics never worked for me so I gave up on coils even though I would love to do them. I know the mechanics to most of them but its like every FC you join offers end game raids etc. Never follows through. I deleted my character I had for a year+ and re rolled to get back into the game and still end up in a nice and great fc but they do not do coils anymore they say so idk I hope there is more content for people like myself that do not have their middle school statics that are older guys like me wanting to enjoy some fun and challenging stuff.

    P.S. The biggest issue in mmorpgs now a days is players do not communicate like we used to in past games, I would tank in an other mmo and we would all have a great time rather we wiped but we all were learning it and having a good time and that mmo I played had a 00.01% chance to even drop anything from a big boss battle *talk about rng lol* I think its people and greed is all but not everyone just a lot
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    Last edited by SoulKhan; 10-28-2014 at 05:59 AM.
    Missing my little guy everyday, In memory of the biggest part of my heart and soul...

  7. #27
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    Edli Papami
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    This is completely false.
    I guess is different in Faerie. All the fights I learned I did them on learning parties. Each and everyone of them.
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  8. #28
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiara1 View Post
    Personally I think the game is a little too easy for me (i would put myself inbetween hardcore and casual) (can't say anything about coil cause I have never tried it)
    This mindset boggles me. I guess it is due to availability of getting 8 other players to attempt Endgame?

    I could understand someone saying that the easy content is easy for them, and they wish they could try the difficult endgame material, but to say that the entire game is easy...

    Anyways, rant over.
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    While a lot of the content does depend on finding 8 other competent players, there was a slight shift from First Coil to Second Coil.

    Second Coil had some random elements that tested a team/players ability to adapt, that weren't really present in First Coil. This made Second Coil much more difficult for players compared to First Coil. I'm sure Final Coil will extend on that with even more difficult mechanics.

    Join a Ramuh EX party and you will find out how many people are able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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    I would say the game is easy in the sense of accessibility to content, learning your party role and gearing up effectively. (Don't equip STR gear on Bard etc)

    There is easy content for casual players, and for just levelling up and learning your class/job role or just learning the game in general.

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    Do I think the game is "too easy"? No.
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  9. #29
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    Valoiz Valentine
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 74
    Its sad but some stuff are TOO easy (4 man dungeons - Primals HM- quest- Fates) with BAd rewards
    Some are ok: Primals Ex but Titan (With some bad rewards like ilv 90 jewes)
    And other are TOO hard for general playerbase (Coil t5+ and Titan Ex)
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  10. #30
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    Fornix Amygdala
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    The game is not so much too easy, but more so lacks frequency or size of challenging endgame content for a select few of us. Having farmed T9 for the past 3 months could have been better. Despite that though, there's still plenty of alternative content to keep one entertained throughout the months of farming. And SE does a good job in extending the quantity of content outside of mere raids in every major patch.
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