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    Finaltime101's Avatar
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    Cassie Greene
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    Basically, everything is easy if you know to mechanics for each fight. The hardest part is creating a party with skilled, competent players. Good party= easy Okay party= kinda hard Bad party= difficult
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    Akio Shikimazu
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    I'd say the overall difficulty is pretty fair for most of the time. I remember having a hard time on Garuda HM back then with i60 but it actually was fun. I wiped quite a few times on some of the more difficult dungeons during my adventure like Aurum Vale, Stone Vigil etc.

    I can see why some people think it's super easy and QQ all day because if you're leaning towards a hardcore gamer side, things appear super easy, especially when you have your static team with you.

    That said.. a major part that trivializes the difficulty is that many think all players in this game should watch a guide before entering literally every content.
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    Adelard Warcleaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaltime101 View Post
    Basically, everything is easy if you know to mechanics for each fight. The hardest part is creating a party with skilled, competent players. Good party= easy Okay party= kinda hard Bad party= difficult
    I agree with that. For example, the first time I did Aurum Vale. my party wiped over and over on the first boss. The healer was kinda undergeared, which didn't help. The second time I did it with no problem. Back in LOTRO my team used to wipe over and over on the rift raid, but only once the fight was learned, it was achievable. Would you say it was the same for the coil and syrcus tower?
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    Player Mogi's Avatar
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    Aria Tsuki
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    Its all on you do you find it to easy? or do you find it hard? to me the game has a good mix of both but that's just how i feel
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    Alkimi Asura
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    There's reasonably difficult content out there. Coil can seem daunting at first but all the fights are scripted so it's just a matter of learning the mechanics then having the required capability to meet the tanking/healing/dps checks.

    As others have said, finding 7 other competent people is a huge challenge in itself.
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    Ai Hana
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    I don't know where people get off making fun of other people for not knowing the encounter. People should get 8 players new to any of the coils, primals HM or EX, and got at it without watching video. If you haven't memorized the scripted encounters, is it easy to figure out what is going on? It is actually fun trying to figure it for the first time. At least wipe a dozen times going in blind.

    After that you can check for answers on youtube or something, because truth be told none of the scripted encounter is obvious or intuitive. How are you suppose to know beforehand that miasma will bind the renauds, or if you move during blighted you will die, or you must stand on the neural link during the big blue flash, or healer and DPS need to be at opposite ends during Gaol, or don't kill off a little moogle too quickly, or any of the stuff people take for granted after a few iterations. And then even if you know the answers, you will need practice to execute the moves. But after a while, if you got a good group that play together consistently, it will all be 1-shots.

    So what is easy? Is it easy to get to point of 1-shot/farm status? Is anything hard when you have everything on 1-shot farm status? What percent of the player base has it all on 1-shot farm status?

    Game only gets addded diffulty because of select group of people deliberately being mean to others. The do things like "no myth bonus" or "no newbies allowed", and then turn around and sell SCOB turns for 60 Mil or so.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 10-28-2014 at 11:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NyarukoW View Post
    I don't know where people get off making fun of other people for not knowing the encounter. People should get 8 players new to any of the coils, primals HM or EX, and got at it without watching video. If you haven't memorized the scripted encounters, is it easy to figure out what is going on? It is actually fun trying to figure it for the first time. At least wipe a dozen times doing in blind.
    Yeah doing coil first day after patch is actually quite fun. There's no pressure on anyone and it's a learning experience for all. The frustration comes when you keep wiping on T7 despite having had it on farm for 5 months, but that happens to the best of us.
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    Which is what I don't understand. it is a bit hypocritical to say "no newbies allowed" when they were once a newbie too. Fortunately I have a company, so I don't really have to deal with these jerks.
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    Edli Papami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelard View Post
    it is a bit hypocritical to say "no newbies allowed" when they were once a newbie too.
    There are plenty of learning parties where newbies can practice. I never had a problem learning fights with those parties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edli View Post
    There are plenty of learning parties where newbies can practice. ...
    This is completely false. The fact that 1 exists every now and then is plenty?

    It is so hard to get a learning a learning party filled. I saw my friends put up a PF for T7 the other day. The one expired waiting for a tank. They put it up again. Another 45 minutes in, still no tank.

    I don't main a tank, and I've only cleared T7 using my main. But I decide to join them with my PLD so at least everyone gets to learn. After I joined I asked if there was anyone with an alt class that is a better tank? That was met with silence. I told them the more experienced tank should do OT and take on adds. That was ignored and no one said a word. But after the 5th wipe, the one time I had voice when the adds showed, and the monk got aggro on the add dies next to healer and healer ended up with the add leading to the wipe. And one them supposed "experience player" decides to take it out on me and wanting to vote kick. Obviously the vote kick failed, but then the verbal abuse started up. Yep some learning party. The experienced players in general don't want to put up with other people learning, and they don't really want to help with learning parties either which adds dramatically to the difficulty for everyone else.

    In contrast what do I see most of the time. T5 farm, Levi EX no myth bonus, Ramuh EX must have multiple clears... etc. etc. Only hunt parties are more common than those, and the ever present T6-9 will sell for 60 mil party on the PF.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 10-28-2014 at 06:17 AM.

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