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  1. #61
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    Supply Demand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akamu_Aniketos View Post
    When you play Monk for a majority of the content, you can see how often you get into a situation where a frontal combo would ease frustration.
    I have mained MNK since 2.1, done Coil 1-9 on it, every single dungeon in the game on a MNK, pretty much all content imaginable on a MNK. It has not once frustrated me in any way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Akamu_Aniketos View Post
    I disagree. I am not asking for much, and I am framing my idea towards how SE has created their Monk. If I were to frame it in my way, my Monk would be very different from what you see in this game.
    You are asking for a 30% buff to DPS when out of position. The penalties for being out of position are there for a reason.

    Done.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    I have mained MNK since 2.1, done Coil 1-9 on it, every single dungeon in the game on a MNK, pretty much all content imaginable on a MNK. It has not once frustrated me in any way.
    I don't believe that.

    If you are telling the truth, then you are a one-dimensional player. We are not the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ehayte View Post
    You are asking for a 30% buff to DPS when out of position. The penalties for being out of position are there for a reason.
    You're trolling again. That's not what I'm asking.
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  3. #63
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    Straigus Rheyist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akamu_Aniketos View Post
    Before:
    BS > TS > SP (Back combo)
    Bootshine 150 Potency + crit if from behind
    Truestrike 190 Potency (back)
    Snap Punch 180 Potency (back)


    After:
    BS > TS > SP (Back combo)
    Bootshine 150 Potency + crit if from behind
    Truestrike 190 Potency (back)
    Snap Punch 180 Potency (back)

    BS > TS > SP (Front combo)
    Bootshine 150 Potency + crit 50% chance if from front
    Truestrike 170 Potency (front)
    Snap Punch 160 Potency (front)

    It's not game breaking, and not hard to implement. Incentive to attack from behind remains as the priority, but gives you an option for the front.
    That Snap Punch doing 180 potency from the back doe. I've been doing it on the side this whole time, maybe I should drop my claws, and bring out the daggers.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houston009 View Post
    That Snap Punch doing 180 potency from the back doe. I've been doing it on the side this whole time, maybe I should drop my claws, and bring out the daggers.
    Haha. Fixed.
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    Last edited by Akamu_Aniketos; 10-31-2014 at 07:16 AM.

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    Hm... Not that I am against the idea but that means more acc will be required for so called 100% hit chance from the front ( hit from the front always requires higher acc for what is needed for the flank and rear), that means less focus on Det/Crit = DPS drop... I don't know, could be fun but not a compulsory.
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  6. #66
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    I don't know the accuracy differences from each side of a mob for higher content, but that's another incentive for you not to combo from the front. So it shouldn't force you to go for any more accuracy then what you have to get now. It's only meant for solo and special situations.

    I'd rather have a way to attack my target from the front; with a lower chance of connecting, then to have no option other then the base potency you get stuck with now.
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    Haerhee Horangi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akamu_Aniketos View Post
    It's only meant for solo and special situations.
    Truthfully, none of the classes in the game are meant to be played "solo". That's why all the enemies for quests that need to be tackled on your own are incredibly easy to defeat. It's why the role system exists. You don't NEED front positional bonuses because the base potency of the skills are high enough to defeat them with ease.

    I'd rather have a way to attack my target from the front; with a lower chance of connecting, then to have no option other then the base potency you get stuck with now.
    The thing is, the base potency is the "front potency" you're asking for. It would just make no sense to buff it. Sure, we're weaker from the front, but we're not weak enough by any means to warrant a buff to the damage.
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    Last edited by Haerhee; 11-05-2014 at 10:14 AM.

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    If monks had a harder time than other classes soloing mobs in the open world, then there might be a good reason to implement this, but that's not the case. There are plenty of opportunities to use your positional bonuses even while soloing and all bosses have either a flank or a rear to attack.

    No point in cramming more information on an already crowded tool tip and further confusing new players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haerhee View Post
    The thing is, the base potency is the "front potency" you're asking for. It would just make no sense to buff it.
    No. That is not what I am asking for. The base potency is a 40% difference, it's a BIG gap. What I am asking for would shorten the gap, not close it.

    No sense to buff it? We should have a way to attack from the front in this game period. How is this Alien to you? This should be in the game like Pummel was in the game for 1.0 to attack from the FRONT.

    Quote Originally Posted by Haerhee View Post
    Sure, we're weaker from the front, but we're not weak enough by any means to warrant a buff to the damage.
    Just because you are a strong Monk doesn't justify not being able to attack from the front with power. Are you a Monk or a Thief?
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    Last edited by Akamu_Aniketos; 11-06-2014 at 12:40 AM.

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