Devs: A Monk front-facing combo. (Positional Requirement)

[Akamu_Aniketos]

1 - X class should have this because Y class has this makes no sense. Because BLM get Flare should MNK get an AE move just as powerful? This holds absolutely no water as an argument.

Really guy?

Monks should be able to attack with strength from every angle period. It has nothing to do with x class having xy. Sneak Attack is an example of a melee dps having a way to attack, with strength from the front.

2 - SA is the only skill in the game that gets a frontal bonus, because it is part of the ROG class about sneaking. Can a MNK sneak? No, so they can't do a sneaky attack that does extra potency from the from.

Exactly my point, Monks aren't Rogue's they shouldn't be heavily forced to attack only from the back or the side like a Rogue.

You're suggestions will not "over power" the MNK but its completely unnecessary. IT IS ALREADY MADE WEAKER FROM THE FRONT. THIS EXISTS.

"It simply makes them too powerful" "It makes you too strong"
So now it's not too powerful, it's just unnecessary, make up your mind.

The normal potency is too weak to not have a combo that you can use from the front. You only get the 1 minute cd steel peak to hold the target for a second to pull off 1 part of a combo, so that isn't reasonable.

[Ehayte]

Really guy?

I'm not your guy, pal.

Monks should be able to attack with strength from every angle period. It has nothing to do with x class having this, Sneak Attack is an example of a melee dps having a way to attack with strength from the front.

Why should MNKs be able to attack with strength from every angle period? Because you said so? OK, I think they shouldn't be able to do that. It seems we have hit an impasse.

Exactly my point, Monks aren't Rogue's they shouldn't be heavily forced to attack only from the back or the side like a Rogue.

You are obviously basing your definition for what a job should do oustide of the context of FFXIV. This is FFXIV, the jobs will function as they are inside of this game, not as they are in any other game.

"It simply makes them too powerful" "It makes you too strong"
So now it's not too powerful, it's just unnecessary, make up your mind.

Over-powered and "Makes them too powerful" are not the same thing, in my vernacular. I can definitely see how that is confusing and I'll apologize for that confusion. Over-powered, to me, means game-breakingly strong. I was trying to communicate that it would make MNKs stronger in situations where they could be doing things outside their defined role, but it would not increase their power IN their assigned role of DPS.

The normal potency is too weak to not have a combo that you can use from the front. You only get the 1 minute cd steel peak to hold the target for a second to pull off 1 part of a combo, so that isn't reasonable.

You. Don't. Get. To. Hold. Mobs.

MNKs are the highest single target DPS in the game, that's what you get. And Mantra. You are asking for too much from a single job, and you are framing it in what your idea of MNK should be. You are playing in SE's world, not yours.

Also - way to not address

[Akamu_Aniketos]

Over-powered and "Makes them too powerful" are not the same thing, in my vernacular. I can definitely see how that is confusing and I'll apologize for that confusion. Over-powered, to me, means game-breakingly strong. I was trying to communicate that it would make MNKs stronger in situations where they could be doing things outside their defined role, but it would not increase their power IN their assigned role of DPS.

When you play Monk for a majority of the content, you can see how often you get into a situation where a frontal combo would ease frustration.

MNKs are the highest single target DPS in the game, that's what you get. And Mantra. You are asking for too much from a single job, and you are framing it in what your idea of MNK should be. You are playing in SE's world, not yours.

I disagree. I am not asking for much, and I am framing my idea towards how SE has created their Monk. If I were to frame it in my way, my Monk would be very different from what you see in this game.

[AsunaTear]

Hi everyone. I'm a MNk since first day (My main of course) and i love that class pretty much. Even if u are fighting a mob on field and want to do most damage possible u can try using lock target and u can use all flanks attacks if u are fast enough to go to flank before mob turn around (with lock target u are pretty fast to change from front to flank and from flank to back). I try flanking every mob i found. The only time i had a hard time and sometimes died it was when i had to do a Alexandrite map by myself, but in the end i got used to that too. I'm a PS user so i need to use lock target all the time in dungeons to not lose any auto atack when i change positions (for instance fighting Avatar, lock target all the time to my max damage possible). U dont need a front attack, we MNKs are fast enough to go to flank and use a attack (with lock target) before mob turns and shoulder whenever u need to finish your combo. I love this class a lot ^^ , hope this info helps.

[dragonfire8974]

I disagree. I am not asking for much, and I am framing my idea towards how SE has created their Monk...

I don't like the realism argument anyways despite me using it. Here is the best argument (in my view) against mnks having a more powerful frontal combo - Balance
Mnks have decent armor, highest ST dps with no movement inhibition (animation lock) at the cost of needing lots of movement and some 40% dmg reduction without proper execution of that movement and a windup. You want to lessen that penalty to 10%. Looking at Turn 9 Dps numbers posted on the forums, that means mnk can deal comparable dmg to drg without any positioning (going from potential >500, to 470. i'm betting that merged numbers though). That's not good balancing

[Ehayte]

When you play Monk for a majority of the content, you can see how often you get into a situation where a frontal combo would ease frustration.

I have mained MNK since 2.1, done Coil 1-9 on it, every single dungeon in the game on a MNK, pretty much all content imaginable on a MNK. It has not once frustrated me in any way.

I disagree. I am not asking for much, and I am framing my idea towards how SE has created their Monk. If I were to frame it in my way, my Monk would be very different from what you see in this game.

You are asking for a 30% buff to DPS when out of position. The penalties for being out of position are there for a reason.

Done.

[Akamu_Aniketos]

I have mained MNK since 2.1, done Coil 1-9 on it, every single dungeon in the game on a MNK, pretty much all content imaginable on a MNK. It has not once frustrated me in any way.

I don't believe that.

If you are telling the truth, then you are a one-dimensional player. We are not the same.

You are asking for a 30% buff to DPS when out of position. The penalties for being out of position are there for a reason.

You're trolling again. That's not what I'm asking.